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Las Vegas Shooting: Hotel Worker Vanishes After Saying Stephen Paddock Didn’t Have Any Bags
FOX365 ^ | 10/12/17

Posted on 10/14/2017 9:13:21 AM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: Steve Van Doorn

Thanks, still 14:00 minute mark?


181 posted on 10/14/2017 4:47:56 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Youtube video i set it to start at 15:30. that is where it’s clear. you can back it up a bit to hear AR-15 rounds going off first.


182 posted on 10/14/2017 4:55:17 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ilovesarah2012
There were two shooters. Who the two shooters are I do not know.
The police seem to think one of them was Paddock.
183 posted on 10/14/2017 4:57:51 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: marktwain

I concur. Mike at least tossed out some numbers, but simplified analysis should focus on
1) cyclic rate of fire to identify the type of weapon being used.
2) Identifying an echo of a previous set of shots, to help discern distance from the shooter,
3) Discern supersonic pings of passing rounds, with later echos of the original shots. Assuming .223 rounds flying at 3000 ft/second, the round will pass about 2000 ft/sec slower than the initial shot. i.e. you would get shot before you hear the shot from the rifle, BUT the round passing over your head would produce a sound wave you would hear, before you hear the original rifle shot. By comparing those shot signatures with the auto fire weapon, it would be fairly easy to come up with a set of distances for the shots.
4) Freq shifts would also provide more accurate info, but I suspect most cell phone microphones distort too much for that info.


184 posted on 10/14/2017 5:00:13 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: mylife

OMG, searching for older movies to watch yesterday I saw this coming soon!

Creepy movie. Along with “the Good Son” of McCauley Culkin in the ‘90s. Same exact idea.


185 posted on 10/14/2017 5:21:26 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: DallasBiff

I found an original story from KITV, saying the Hawaiian employee had parked the shooter’s car, 11 days ago. The story was removed, and KITV wrote that the employee had asked them to take it down, as he was getting too much attention.
http://www.kitv.com/story/36505487/hawaii-native-parked-shooters-car


186 posted on 10/14/2017 5:23:06 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/politics/fact-check-vegas-gunman.html

One shooter


187 posted on 10/14/2017 5:27:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: maggief
In the youtube video I posted at 6:00 there is a nice video of the two helicopters in the sky flying over the top of one another near the hotel.
I do not know what to make of that at all.

At 16:25 the kid seems to think one of the shooters was the plane "right behind us." Again, I'm not saying if he is right or not but it's interesting.

188 posted on 10/14/2017 5:32:36 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes. official word is one shooter. There was clearly two shooters. watch the video i posted.


189 posted on 10/14/2017 5:34:22 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: NetAddicted
A Mandalay Bay valet Chad Nishimura said that Paddock didn't have many bags.

Chad Nishimura is no where to be found at this time.
Here is a copy of that story
http://yournewswire.com/mandalay-bay-valet-missing/

190 posted on 10/14/2017 5:43:09 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I can’t tell anything from the video but what’s the story with the helicopters?


191 posted on 10/14/2017 5:46:58 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: maggief

I guess there were some hits clear down on the back side of the concert area that can’t be explained yet. Can’t rule anything out at this point yet.

Thanks for posting that.


192 posted on 10/14/2017 5:47:54 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ilovesarah2012
You honestly can't tell there was two different weapons fired from the video I posted? Started at 16:45?
How can you not hear two weapons? That higher pitched one is clearly an AR-15 or M-16 they're distinctive. The other is a belt fully auto.

There is no way you can't hear that.

193 posted on 10/14/2017 5:52:26 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: mylife

What does not make sense is suing Mandalay bay and the Concert promoters when the perp was a multi millionaire.


OK, that covers the *first* lawsuit.

How about the next couple of hundred?


194 posted on 10/14/2017 5:53:05 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Seems to be the best target of opportunity but they will spray an pray like the perp


196 posted on 10/14/2017 5:56:45 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Vic S

That one (from MB taxi station) is pretty clear, especially explained with the WAV visuals.

The one from under the bleachers also - pretty obvious there are two consistent sounds. The professional editor doing the WAV analysis proves that it’s not an echo, by demonstrating the one perfect capture by the cab driver that WAS an echo.


197 posted on 10/14/2017 6:02:53 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Karl Spooner

Thank you for posting that. Spent a lot of time on it.


198 posted on 10/14/2017 6:05:00 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Right at 16:00, that does sound like two different weapons.


199 posted on 10/14/2017 6:06:44 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

How can you not hear two weapons? That higher pitched one is clearly an AR-15 or M-16 they’re distinctive. The other is a belt fully auto.

There is no way you can’t hear that.


You can obviously hear more than two sequences of different sounds.

As the video shows no way to differentiate between shots, strikes, and echos, and because we know the mass murderer used different weapons and calibers, there is no proof of more than one shooter.

If all the sequences were exactly the same, it would be suspicious.


200 posted on 10/14/2017 6:08:32 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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