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Las Vegas Shooting: Hotel Worker Vanishes After Saying Stephen Paddock Didn’t Have Any Bags
FOX365 ^ | 10/12/17

Posted on 10/14/2017 9:13:21 AM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: Karl Spooner

yes. my mistake 100 rounds not 50. Either way it wasn’t a clip.


241 posted on 10/14/2017 8:53:00 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Belt fed have a lower pitch sound to them. To me its like a “thud” sound. More important the LMG uses a 30 round clip. The shooter was firing 50 rounds at a time. When I first heard it I thought it was an M240 (it might be.) I would say it was an M249. Also, note how long it takes to reload:
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Shooter had Surfire magazines. They are 60 and 100 rounds.

The M249 can use *both* magazines and belted ammo.

But no M249 was found.

Reloading time is not a problem if you have multiple firearms loaded.


242 posted on 10/14/2017 8:57:36 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Maybe he was running a little late making it to the concert. :) Nobody ever claimed that the FBI/CIA hires their spooks based on their intelligence.


243 posted on 10/14/2017 9:01:01 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: marktwain

How do you know there wasn’t a M249 found? I didn’t see an inventory or photographic evidence of the weapons.


244 posted on 10/14/2017 9:05:19 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ilovesarah2012
The helicopters one flying over the top of the other you can see in the first video i shown. I honestly don't know what to make of that.
I love Sarah said,
"I can’t think of a reason the cops would want to lie about how many shooters there were"

The key to that question is the FBI guy Aaron C Rouse always looking creepy at the Sheriff. He was the section chief in the counterintelligence division of the FBI HQ. Which his job was prevents foreign intelligence agencies from successfully gathering and collecting intelligence.

In other words this attack was a foreign intelligence organized attack on us.

I personally think it was the Saudi's. They own a large part of that hotel. Which would give them special access.

245 posted on 10/14/2017 9:19:57 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: marktwain
"Shooter had Surfire magazines."
Yeah i seen those. notice where they were located. On the other side of the freaking room from the window. That isn't a logical place if he expected firing from the window.

If he was only one guy. that ended up firing maybe two weapons. Why did he have what is the count now 23 weapons?
There was a LOT more people involved or it was a show case of weapons.

246 posted on 10/14/2017 9:27:09 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: marktwain
The release of images from the suite did a lot to clarify facts. It is obvious that the shooter is dead, for example...

Nothing is obvious. All you have is the bottom half of a body in one image, and the top half in another:

TOP OF BODY IMAGE

We assume these images make up the body of Paddock. If he was the shooter, has not been established. Has it?

247 posted on 10/14/2017 9:37:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Karl Spooner; All
How do you know there wasn’t a M249 found? I didn’t see an inventory or photographic evidence of the weapons.

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Point taken. I have not seen or read any evidence of an M249 being found.

Here is a set of pictures that I found pretty quickly. It shows two different firearms, one with a 100 round Surefire mag and a bumpfire type of stock. The other shows two types of magazines for different calibers and what appears to be brass from at least two and likely three calibers on the floor. If I had the original photo's resolution, I could make a good estimate of the calibers, but this photo is not good enough for me. Maybe someone else has a higher resolution version of this photo?


248 posted on 10/14/2017 9:38:27 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Sure is a whole lot of brass laying around. /s


249 posted on 10/14/2017 9:43:54 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Fred Nerks

There is a graphic photo of the mass killer with blood in his mouth and doing a very convincing job of bleeding out of the back of his head.


If you want to say nothing is obvious, well, yes everything can be faked.

From that viewpoint, how do we know anyone was shot, at all?

As for the person you named being the shooter (I refuse to give him the after death publicity he seemed to crave) Again, anything can be faked, but that level of fakery is so over the top that you can believe anything and everything, so it becomes a nullity.


250 posted on 10/14/2017 9:46:34 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Karl Spooner

Sure is a whole lot of brass laying around. /s


Yes. These photos are a good bit away from the windows.


251 posted on 10/14/2017 9:48:22 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Has anyone ever explained how that weapon got on top of his leg?


252 posted on 10/14/2017 9:52:47 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Fred Nerks
In my opinion the only thing established about Paddock was that his body was dead in the room. The top half you can see a lot of blood at his chest. but they don't show his right hand or abdomen. Note: No or very little blood on the revolver claimed he used to kill himself.

Also note how skinny he is compared to his other photos.

253 posted on 10/14/2017 9:54:42 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Karl Spooner
HA! He bent over to see if it was loaded, shot himself in the face using his big toe on the trigger, and when he fell over, it fell on top of him.

See how manbearpig might have done it:

Problem is, there are no toe/fingerprints because the dead man wore gloves.

254 posted on 10/14/2017 10:12:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

In my opinion the only thing established about Paddock was that his body was dead in the room. The top half you can see a lot of blood at his chest. but they don’t show his right hand or abdomen. Note: No or very little blood on the revolver claimed he used to kill himself.


Maybe you could show us the photo where there is a “lot of blood at his chest”. I do not recall seeing one. The one I saw shows some discoloration of his shirt from some sort of liquid. Not at all clear it is blood, and there doesn’t seem to be that much of it.

I would not expect much blood on a revolver used in a suicide with the muzzle in the mouth. The back of the head is blown out; the revolver recoils away from that and, depending on how it was held, the position of the arm or arms, and the original position of the body, usually falls to rest on or a little ways a way from the body. In 7% of the cases, it comes to rest more than a 30 cm from the body, just as shown in the photos.

24% of the time, it stays in the hand.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10208326


255 posted on 10/14/2017 10:19:32 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Careful now. Some in the government fan club here might try that!


256 posted on 10/14/2017 10:24:07 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

Dailymail article has over 40 images, some weapons details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html?ITO=1490


257 posted on 10/14/2017 10:24:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: marktwain

You didn’t see blood?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=sio54pVY&id=3A666E7B87DDBD4828DD68717297D4B826DC3BD8&thid=OIF.nogt28fMh6xsTrGT6hEKSg&q=Stephen+Paddock+body&simid=142247559759&selectedIndex=5&ajaxhist=0

I would also like to point out the hand gun that no one seems to have noticed. Top right hand side of image.


258 posted on 10/14/2017 10:30:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

So many blank spots, so many holes, so many questions.

Yes, interesting only two photos of two parts of the body.


259 posted on 10/14/2017 10:54:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
He wasn't a small man:


260 posted on 10/14/2017 10:55:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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