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To: bananaman22

Me, being part Luddite, have to ask. Is block chain the same as the “cloud” on steroids?


3 posted on 01/10/2018 4:39:20 PM PST by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'm younger than that now.)
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To: buckalfa
Me, being part Luddite, have to ask. Is block chain the same as the “cloud” on steroids?

I'll let you know, ... if I ever find a description of blockchain that isn't complete gibberish.

4 posted on 01/10/2018 4:55:34 PM PST by snarkpup (The swamp is draining; and the alligators are allegating.)
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To: buckalfa
Me, being part Luddite, have to ask. Is block chain the same as the “cloud” on steroids?

They are two different things, based upon two different concepts. Clouds are based upon centralization, block chains are decentralized. Clouds are for large storage and systems, block chains are for the accurate management of events and transactions.

6 posted on 01/10/2018 5:37:39 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: buckalfa

No.
Cloud translates to “someone else’s server”. Blockchain translates to “3rd party verified and non-reputable (cant deny) ledger.


7 posted on 01/10/2018 5:49:07 PM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: buckalfa

Yes, you can describe it as an unregulated, cloud-based currency.


14 posted on 01/11/2018 1:54:07 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: buckalfa; snarkpup; taxcontrol; zeestephen; oldbill
"Cloud" is essentially a data storage on the Internet server belonging to you (private cloud), some other company like Amazon (AWS) Microsoft (Azure), IBM, Google, Salesforce, etc. (public cloud) or combination of both (hybrid cloud).

Blockchain is an entirely different concept - it's an Internet-based, open-source, [usually encrypted] flat DATABASE (called "ledger") which is distributed / replicated among many computers on the Internet for the purpose of keeping records, such as financial or other transactions between parties on the same blockchain network.

Because it's "flat" and relatively inefficient to access (traverse the records to verify the parties and data to "clear" the transaction) it grows very fast in size and generally provides no benefit relative to regular databases currently in use for such purposes, like various versions of SQL or newer like MongoDB or MariaDB and non-structured DB systems like Hadoop.

For financial purposes transactions over blockchain could be costly compared to regular debit transactions (with no credit risk) and much slower compared to such as Visa and Mastercard, but it might have limited uses when database is going to have a finite runtime and size, though it still difficult to imagine that it would give any advantage over regular database with transactions that could be encrypted for security if needed. In other words, blockchains have an inherent scalability and processing speed problem which is getting worse as the database / ledger gets bigger with use.

A few articles explaining advantages and many disadvantages of blockchain, mainly by discussing case use of Bitcoin which is built on it (though not limited to Bitcoin, as some new blockchain systems are trying to improve on certain aspects of Bitcoin blockchain, such as security and speed) :

Ten years in, nobody has come up with a use for blockchain - CNBC, by Kai Stinchcombe, 2017 December 26

What Is Bitcoin Good For? - BL, by Megan McCardle, 2017 December 22

Bitcoin Is an Implausible Currency - BL, by Megan McCardle, 2017 December 27

There are a lot of excitement around blockchain, especially in financial industry, mostly due to encryption and potentially faster debit "clearance" mechanism, and a lot of experimental small-scale trials among several banks, delivering "proof-of-concept" (i.e., it can work) but it's a long way, if ever, from actually deploying it on a wide-scale commercial trusted system which is generally pretty well served by existing systems, even including anonymity of transactions.

17 posted on 01/11/2018 4:49:36 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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