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Book Review: War Before Civilization
Gun Watch ^ | 10 April, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/09/2018 11:35:31 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: MileHi

...detroit, baltimore (and another LIB-run hellhole)


21 posted on 04/09/2018 1:14:48 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MileHi

...detroit, baltimore (and any other LIB-run hellhole)


22 posted on 04/09/2018 1:14:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: jonno

Yes, the author has that philosophy. The “one world” stuff is at the end of the book and does not detract much from his research.


23 posted on 04/09/2018 1:15:02 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: DesertRhino

I disagree.

The Indians transitioned from bows to muzzleloaders as fast as they could get them.

There is no question that Indian mounted warriors were superb fighters.

A bow might be superior in a one on one encounter; but men with muzzleloaders repeatedly bested bowmen in force on force encounters.


24 posted on 04/09/2018 1:21:31 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Related subject: (Russeau mentioned) The Dark Side of the Enlightenment The source article is, unfortunately, behind a paywall. It’s a gem.


I have read that essay. It is well worth reading.


25 posted on 04/09/2018 1:23:16 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: VR-21

It’s been several years since I read about this.

East of mid-MT. Seems like it was between two buttes or by a butte.

Crow on one side.

Probably Sioux on the other, but might have been a different tribe.

Pre Civil War.


26 posted on 04/09/2018 1:48:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: hal ogen

Yep. Tribal.


27 posted on 04/09/2018 2:08:39 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: marktwain

bump


28 posted on 04/09/2018 2:52:11 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: blueunicorn6; VR-21

Don’t forget the Aztecs and Mayans.

They had some big battles. Mexico is in North America...


29 posted on 04/09/2018 4:43:02 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: dsc

Another advantage were the grain fed horses of the Cavalry. This gave the animals more energy and stamina than the grass fed equines of the Indian.


30 posted on 04/09/2018 5:44:42 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: RatRipper

This is one reason why Left wing education is so dangerous. Western children are taught all sorts of peaceable nonsense about human nature. Their learning curve in the next American war will be sharp.


31 posted on 04/09/2018 5:47:01 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: marktwain
I disagree. The primitive bowmen immediately transitioned to muskets as soon as they could obtain them.

Maybe a misunderstanding about what is primitive. Nonwestern empires acquired muskets early on. Tribes usually waited for rifles to appear.

32 posted on 04/09/2018 5:48:37 PM PDT by x
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To: DesertRhino

The big advantage of even muskets over bows is need for training. It took years of practice to make a good bowman but only weeks to train a musketeer.


33 posted on 04/09/2018 5:52:09 PM PDT by slorunner
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To: Amberdawn

A lot of people would debate that one.

The US Cavalry never caught Quanah Parker and his Comanches.


34 posted on 04/09/2018 6:14:07 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

I’m sure there were ones who got away, but overall, grain fed horses can outrun grass fed.


35 posted on 04/09/2018 6:17:54 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: Amberdawn

“This is one reason why Left wing education is so dangerous. Western children are taught all sorts of peaceable nonsense about human nature. Their learning curve in the next American war will be sharp.”

I’ve been wondering if that isn’t the reason for the apparent increase in PTSD and other problems of young vets.


36 posted on 04/09/2018 6:26:15 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Amberdawn

“I’m sure there were ones who got away, but overall, grain fed horses can outrun grass fed.”

On a track in Kentucky.


37 posted on 04/09/2018 6:31:05 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

Could be part of it. I would like to see a breakdown of PTSD cases by age. I think those of us who have lived longer tend to handle stress better, realizing how ugly life can be, compared to younger people. I may be totally wrong, but it intrigues me. We also have to remember that the media will play up PTSD for their own purposes.


38 posted on 04/09/2018 6:39:40 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Are you thinking of Crow Creek?

Crow Creek Massacre

39 posted on 04/09/2018 6:55:11 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: Amberdawn

“I think those of us who have lived longer tend to handle stress better, realizing how ugly life can be, compared to younger people.”

True, but combat soldiers tend to be young.


40 posted on 04/10/2018 8:15:49 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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