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How conservatives are poised to actually make paid family leave a reality
Independent Women's Forum ^ | May 13, 2018 | Carrie L. Lukas

Posted on 05/14/2018 3:22:37 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: DesertRhino

I can see that aspect, too. (Rewarding conservatives for reproducing.)

HOWEVER, Government meddling in ANYTHING does NOT produce the results they THINK they will.

It never does. Ever. Never. Ever. EVER. :)


22 posted on 05/14/2018 5:07:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

One of my BILs has been a SAHD since the day his first son was born. (They have two boys, now.)

His wife makes major cash consolidating/streamlining/fixing businesses and saving them from bankruptcy; she’s VERY good at what she does, I can name many businesses and community hospitals that she has saved.

She has the money-making skills, he has the parenting skills, though, of course, her boys ADORE her. (We all do!)

Their kids are super-smart, play sports and instruments, can drive farm machinery; heck, they excel at anything they do! They are polite, well-mannered and a JOY to be around.

It works.


23 posted on 05/14/2018 5:17:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They should not have paid leave.


24 posted on 05/14/2018 5:19:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“According to the Pew Research Center, 75 percent of Republicans”

Baloney. Its ridiculous how often Pew claims to find most Republicans always agreeing with Democrats.


25 posted on 05/14/2018 5:20:41 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

As Asian who live in us for more than 28 years now I kind of have second thought on American ideals or this pursuit of happiness, personal liberty and freedom stuff. These things guide young people especially young white ladies away from family. Young ones always think of themselves first, they never have family and nation in their mind. Historically whites are majority in us they are good people and did very good building country. They are dwindling fast to minority. somewhere I read one woman should give birth to 3 baby in order for her racial group to sustain in a long run. From what I observe, whites are below the minimum birth rate. God knows what they are thinking


26 posted on 05/14/2018 5:23:43 PM PDT by Lee25
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That is wonderful.


27 posted on 05/14/2018 5:25:19 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Discriminates against employees that don’t take time off. How about no special privileges for any self-inflicted conditions.


28 posted on 05/14/2018 5:26:06 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Engedi

Then she will collect on his sizable life insurance policy. Also she will get SS Death Benfits.


29 posted on 05/14/2018 5:26:25 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks to the non-conservatives, jared Kushner and his wife Ivanka.

We will now have huge tax increases, so that millions of wealthy, overly paid public employees can take a year off to have a nanny take care of their kids.


30 posted on 05/14/2018 5:28:21 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Architect of Avalon
Fathers deserve an equal right to parent, just like mothers get an equal right to pursue careers.

What about non-parents? Should they be paid less because of conditions outside of their job duties? Pay should be based on value to the employer, not family status, race, gender, or any other non-performance measure.

31 posted on 05/14/2018 5:29:55 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Anyone advocating paid family leave is not a conservative.

But far worse is the massive child care credit that Ivanka got into the last tax bill. That is not only destructive to families, but a huge cost to taxpayers.


32 posted on 05/14/2018 5:30:14 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

How about ZERO time off, and NO paid time off for maternity leave?

The total amount of time that I could take off from when my three sons were born was exactly four days total. Two of those days were unpaid call in, two were vacation days. My wife was not working at the time. Due to my work schedule, I pretty much missed out on my two youngest growing up.

If I could do it over, I would have told my employer to FOAD, and that the paycheck just wasn’t worth it.

If you want slaves, go down to the border and pick some up. At least you can have the feds subsidize their kids.

And people just can’t wrap their heads around why America is slowly devolving into mexico.


33 posted on 05/14/2018 5:40:29 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Hugin

“What about dads?”

Mothers are heroes for birthing babies. Dads work their butts off to provide food, shelter and education for 18 years. That’s not heroic.


34 posted on 05/14/2018 6:21:54 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: DesertRhino
"I’d rather have my tax dollars going to US mom’s staying home with kids than being given to every multinational bank, ..."

You say that like our rulers would treat them as mutually exclusive.

35 posted on 05/14/2018 7:48:09 PM PDT by NaturalScience
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

When I had my son, I received disability. I had a c-section and doctor’s orders for 8 weeks. I did not receive 100% pay, of course. I took an extra week with no pay. I had a difficult pregnancy and did have to take a few weeks off prior. Again, medically necessary. I guess I was lucky to be partially paid and alive.


36 posted on 05/14/2018 8:45:50 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (9/11/01 Never Forget. Never.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I guess this paid family leave is just like Teddy Kennedy's Immigration Reform which was sooooo pro-family and soooo conservative.

Total BS.

Of course we all knew that unpaid family leave would ultimately lead to paid family leave. Just like we knew civil unions would lead to gay marriage, affirmative action would lead to quotas, feminism would lead to anti-masculinity, welfare state would lead to socialism, etc.

We are making the same mistakes that Western Europe is making, only at a much faster rate.

37 posted on 05/14/2018 9:24:02 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Hugin

Military now has paternal leave .....


38 posted on 05/15/2018 2:59:26 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: RedStateRocker

Snort. They subsidize with one hand, paid family leave, then penalize, high prop taxes that make a larger home impossible, with the other.

Government should just get the heck off our backs and keeps its mitts out of our pockets.


39 posted on 05/15/2018 3:05:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: mewzilla

And I hate to break it to supporters, but the last stats I saw showed that the people who could use this the most, folks with lower incomes, are the least able/inclined to use it.


40 posted on 05/15/2018 3:08:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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