Posted on 10/02/2019 10:34:57 AM PDT by EyesOfTX
I think you are correct. If this goes to the Senate the Dems there can vote to dismiss and end this BS, or, know that there are not votes enough to impeach. Will they and their masters be willing to endure the folks (read all the deep state players for Russiagate and now Urkraine) that can be dragged into this kangaroo court to testify? I mean UNDER REAL OATH and probably on national TV. I don't think I would be willing to roll the dice if I knew there is no chance of a finding of guilty.
Just my 2 cents.
Good points.
I don’t think it will even get to the Senate. The Dems are scared to death of discovery.
The Dems want to do as much damage to DJT as they can, and, in the long run, it won’t work. It will backfire on them.
I think McConnell is doing OK overall but both McConnell and Graham can do far, far better on the federal judge front. Last week the Senate voted on and confirmed ZERO District Court nominees. The week preceding that the Senate voted on and confirmed ZERO District Court nominees. Earlier in September the Senate returned from a six week summer recess. And now they’re on yet another recess for two weeks.
When Trump assumed office there were 86 vacant District Court judgeships. You know, the District Judgeships which sabotage President Trump when they’re occupied by an agenda-driven ‘RAT appointee. The number of vacancies has increased and there are now 97 vacant District Court judgeships.
There are 71 of Trump’s Judicial nominees pending confirmation in the Senate (of which 51 are pending in Lindsey Graham’s Judiciary Committee). This is INEXCUSABLE! Graham needs to no longer allow the DemocRATS to use the Blue Slip process to stop consideration of Trump’s nominees. And McConnell needs to schedule confirmation votes on nominees quicker after they’re out of the Judiciary Committee.
The article makes some fair points, but I know I wouldn’t want _my_ fate decided by the turtle.
An interesting twist on impeachment!
LET THEM GO AHEAD AND IMPEACH TRUMP.... HERE’S WHAT HAPPENS THEN......
By: Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD, (Political Science)
I have a degree in Political Science, and I am a card-carrying Libertarian. I’ve been studying politics and political history for the past 30 years. My specialty is U.S. Presidents. That said, I hope that the House of
Representatives impeaches Trump. Let me tell you what will happen next!
1. The House can pass articles of impeachment over the objections of the
Republicans, and refer to the Senate for trial.
2. The Senate will conduct a trial. There will be a vote, and the Republicans will vote unanimously, along with a small number of Democrats, to not convict the President. Legally, it will all be over at that point.
3. However, during the trial, and this is what no one is thinking about right now, the President’s attorneys will have the right to subpoena and question ANYONE THEY WANT.. That is different than the special counsel
investigation, which was very one-sided. So, during the impeachment trial, we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a whole host of other participants in this whole sordid affair and the ensuing cover up activities. A lot of dirt will be dug up; a lot of truth will be unveiled. Finger pointing will occur. Deals will start being made, and suddenly, a lot of democrats will start being charged and going to prison.
All this, because, remember, the President’s team will now, for the first time, have the RIGHT to question all of these people under oath – and they will turn on each other. That is already starting.
4. Lastly, one more thing will happen, the Senate will not convict the President. Nothing will happen to Trump. Most Americans are clueless about political processes, the law, and the Constitution. Most Americans believe that being impeached results in removal from office. They don’t understand that phase 2 is a trial in and by the Senate, where he has zero chance of conviction. Remember, the Senate is controlled by Republicans; they will determine what testimony is allowed — and **everything** will be allowed, including: DNC collusion with the Clinton campaign to fix the election in favor of Hillary, the creation of the Trump dossier, the cover up and
destruction of emails that very likely included incriminating information. They will incriminate each other for lying to the FISA court, for spying and wiretapping the Trump campaign, and for colluding with foreign political actors, especially George Soros. After the Senate declines to convict the President, we will have an election, and Trump will win. It will be a backlash against democrat petulance, temper tantrums, hypocrisy and dishonesty. Even minorities will vote for Trump, because, for the first time, they will see that democrats have spent 2+ years focused on maintaining their own power, and not doing anything at all about black murders in Chicago, homelessness, opioids, and other important issues that are actually killing people. And, we will spend the following four years listening to politicians and pundits claim that the whole impeachment was rigged.
So let’s move on to impeachment.
Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD
This has been McConnell's biggest accomplishment the past few years.
Does he get everything 100% correct? Nope. None of us do. Is the work he's done with judicial appointees since PDJT came to office substantial and long-lasting? Yep.
There is a lot of things to knock Mitch on, but on some things, this guy is quiet and on the ball.
Say what you will about him, Yertle saved the republic from years of misery when he singlehandedly stood up to Zero and the liberal establishment and quashed the Merrick Garland nomination to the Supreme Court.
Not that conservatives on this forum could pause their criticism long enough to thank him.
Any constitutional disagreement, conflict and/or confusion should reflect both original intent and basic presumptions made by the framers. For example, an essential core assumption was that elected leaders would be comprised of those who held high moral and ethical standards who would act honestly to work in the best common interests of the health and welfare of the union.
However, what if the state has been so thoroughly corrupted that those basic assumptions have become now null & void? What then of impeachment, which can be (and has been) weaponized as a purely political tool to overturn elections? Is there no recourse available to either the president or the people if a conspiracy to overthrow the legally constitute government merely follows rough outlines that have no bearing on actual intent ie HIGH crimes & misdemeanors?
Lincoln challenged the idea that states could secede - even though the constitution is silent on the matter. So too Trump should challenge the notion that certain parts of the constitution can be unilaterally interpreted as justification for extra-legal procedures to attack valid electoral results.
Might just end as a censure in the House.
[singing] Kentucky woman shines with her own kind of light...
He set a record.
“not fast enough”
Antonin Scalia died in 2016. McConnell managed to prevent Obama’s nominee from being put on the Court. I don’t know if he would have managed to do it if Scalia had died in 2015.
Rush pointed out today impeachment in the House is never done in the Intelligence committee. They did it with Adam Schiff so they can keep stuff from us saying classified
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