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To: G Larry
The term "natural born citizen" was selectively ignored for obummer and harris but will be weaponized against any republican. You can count on that.

The dimrats tried to disqualify McCain because he was born in the canal zone although both parents were American citizens and his father was assigned to a US military installation there.

10 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:34 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier
The devils in the Senate ‘resolved’ Lord McCain was eligible. They knew he was NOT, but their resolution put a shroud over who they were really covering..

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/sres511/text

Notice who the senators were that put up this banner!

The law business went woke a long time ago.. by the way, I was taught in late 60’s (8thgrade), what ‘natural born citizenship’ was. Only US citizens birthing their child in a U.S. state have ‘natural born citizenship’.. I was born in Germany, thus I am not nor will I ever be a natural born US citizen.

34 posted on 08/30/2023 10:33:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: pfflier

Panama John McCain was not an NBC either.

Overseas birth is a killer if you’re hoping to keep your kid’s POTUS options open.

Dad’s the U.S. Ambassador of the foreign country you’re born in? Probably okay.

Dad’s a uniformed member of the U.S. armed forces in hostile occupation of the foreign country you’re born in? You’re probably okay in that instance as well.

Other than that, your U.S. citizenship, if you end up being recognized as a U.S. citizen, will more than likely be by way of meeting the requirements of one or another provision of Congress’ Naturalization statute. Meaning: You are a citizen by statute, and not by nature.

Natural Born Citizens of the United States need not point to any provision of U.S. statutory law, or to the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, to prove their status. No positive aspect of written U.S. law applies to their situation. They are “Les naturels”!


110 posted on 08/30/2023 11:42:41 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: pfflier

“The dimrats tried to disqualify McCain because he was born in the canal zone although both parents were American citizens and his father was assigned to a US military installation there.”

McCain was NOT a natural born citizen.

He was born in a foreign country. Panama. He was NOT born in the Canal Zone, even though that wouldn’t have mattered. He was born in Colon Panama, exempted from the Panama Canal Zone Treaty.

His father being in the military has nothing to do with John McCain’s citizenship.

His parents being both U.S. citizens overseas DID make a difference though.

It meant that John was a native born U.S. citizen at birth. In other words there was no need to apply for naturalization upon returning to the U.S.

A natural born citizen (which is only a requirement for office of president and vice president) HAS TO BE BORN IN THE USA.

U.S. SOIL! NOT an embassy, NOT “some” territories or possessions, but U.S. SOIL!

Last I knew, the “soil” in Panama is Panamanian.

And then there is the problem that BOTH parentS have to be U.S. citizens at the time of the birth of the person wanting to be president/vice president.

These things were what the framers KNEW to be natural born citizen meaning at the time.

John Jay KNEW it! That is why he wrote George Washington about it.

That’s why George Washington “The former president borrowed The Law of Nations by Emer de Vattel on 5 October 1789, according to the records of the New York Society Library” and never returned it until 221 years later.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2010/may/20/george-washington-library-book


169 posted on 08/30/2023 12:48:26 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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