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Denver Synagogue Vandalized(Passion of Christ Blamed)
9News .com (Denver) ^ | 3/6/2004 4:44:35 PM | Paola Farer

Posted on 03/06/2004 8:42:17 PM PST by woofie

DENVER - A Denver synagogue was damaged with graffiti overnight. Swastikas were drawn on the synagogue on south Monaco Parkway.

The graffiti was in the doorway and across a sign. There were also several symbols drawn on the back wall of the building.

A holocaust survivor who saw the graffiti says it was almost too much to take. There was no official response available from the congregation Saturday, although several people who called 9NEWS to report the damage said that they blamed Mel Gibson’s movie “The Passion of the Christ” for rekindling anti-Semitism.

Members of the congregation will gather Sunday morning to start cleaning off the graffiti.


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To: woofie
It wouldn't shock me if some dumb redneck took it upon himself to do this. Then again, it wouldn't shock me if they didn't do this to themselves to garner a bit of publicity.
51 posted on 03/06/2004 9:22:33 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: malakhi
I couldn't believe those two sentences either. Trying real hard not to say some things here.
52 posted on 03/06/2004 9:23:22 PM PST by tubavil
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To: wirestripper
are they sure it wasn't an SUV that did it?
53 posted on 03/06/2004 9:23:37 PM PST by eccentric
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To: woofie
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2004/02/28/news/local/news04.txt

Condon: Movie stirs passions for and against Christianity

Pastor Matt Condon doesn't think it's a coincidence that the sign outside his Garden City Church was destroyed so soon after "The Passion of the Christ" began playing in Missoula theaters.

54 posted on 03/06/2004 9:23:59 PM PST by loudmouths
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To: patriciaruth
I thought my post made it clear that if anything stimulated an attack on Jews, it was all the liberal hype about the film being anti-semitic, not the film itself.

What particular thing do you think the members of this synagogue did to bring this on themselves?

55 posted on 03/06/2004 9:24:19 PM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi
I remember growing up in NY where a local synagogue was repeatedly vandalized. The press and many Jewish community leaders cried "antisemitism." I found out that the anti-semites were my three Jewish friends who figured out how to get inside the synagogue when it was locked to the public.
56 posted on 03/06/2004 9:24:28 PM PST by AUH2OY2K
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To: wirestripper
You, Mr. gasoline and matches, are asking someone who is being very reserved to "ease up?" LOL.
57 posted on 03/06/2004 9:24:47 PM PST by tubavil
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To: malakhi
>>>What are you suggesting, that there are too many holocaust survivors?


Don't be absurd!

I am suggesting howver, that maybe some one (a reporter perhaps) should CONFIRM someone's claim to being one.

58 posted on 03/06/2004 9:25:40 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: woofie
Sounds like some teenagers wanted to get their jollies by seeing their handiwork on TV and all the hand-wringing about it!
59 posted on 03/06/2004 9:26:45 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
Oh you are still around. Got any quotes you can post for us to learn from.
60 posted on 03/06/2004 9:26:47 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Barbie Doll
Probably one of The Chosen did the vandalizing...

What spirit just told you to write that comment ?

61 posted on 03/06/2004 9:26:48 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Bobber58
to blame "Passion" is knee-jerk

I agree. Without evidence that the perps saw the movie or were motivated by the controversy around it, it is irresponsible, not to mention unfair, to blame it on the movie. We don't even know who the perps are yet.

62 posted on 03/06/2004 9:29:07 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: woofie
What hogwash!
63 posted on 03/06/2004 9:30:54 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: loudmouths
Surveillance cameras reviewed in 'Virgin Mary' vandalism

Surveillance cameras are an excellent method to deter and catch vandals. They should be prosecuted no matter what group they subscribe to so that group can disavow them and contribute to safety for all other groups.

64 posted on 03/06/2004 9:31:23 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: AUH2OY2K
I remember growing up in NY where a local synagogue was repeatedly vandalized. The press and many Jewish community leaders cried "antisemitism." I found out that the anti-semites were my three Jewish friends who figured out how to get inside the synagogue when it was locked to the public.

Did you report them to the police (I certainly hope so) ?

65 posted on 03/06/2004 9:32:28 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: malakhi
You don't think its reasonable that they would find this upsetting?

Scale of response, upsetting yes, "Almost too much to take", no.

66 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:00 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: All
Ok ...this comment is meant to calm everyone down....

Bush did it
67 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:23 PM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: eccentric
LOL! Or GWB.

This post has scratched a few raw nerves.

For the past several days, there have been some rather heated comments about supporters of the Passion.

The threads seem to have morphed into the Christian Chronicles of thousand year old hatreds.

Most, if not All of us would like to continue with the previously good opinions and feeling we had, prior to this, but the attacks, either through the media or through mis guided replies continue.

I for one, would love to forgive the 2000 year old people who Crucified Christ, as He has done and for my forefathers to be forgiven of their sins as well.

That is where we ought to be in this discourse. And that is where I want to go.

68 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:33 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: woofie
Any evidence that it was Mel Gibson? Did anyone see him there?

Okay, folks, it is a very serious matter. Let's try to keep it focused. You can't blame a filmmaker for something he has no control over.

Why aren't the Muslims implicated? They are behind the wave of Jew-hatred attacks and synagogue burnings in Europe.

Anyway, if this is a "Christian" Jew-hatred attack, those responsible should be ashemed, ask God for forgiveness, and turn themselves in at the nearest police station or be hunted down like dogs.

Would a Christian proudly display a swastika to Jesus Christ, himself a Jew?

Nazi actions are a sin, because they are opposed to the Golden Rule.
69 posted on 03/06/2004 9:35:13 PM PST by rogueleader
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To: Barbie Doll
I hope that's a reference to Jordan's Wheel of Time.
70 posted on 03/06/2004 9:36:37 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: tubavil
You, Mr. gasoline and matches

LOL! I made a crack about popcorn for the event that was coming for sure.

I have seen plenty the past few days.

71 posted on 03/06/2004 9:37:22 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Antoninus
The fact that it was just "painting swastikas" makes me think that this was an inside job.

Why would you think that?

72 posted on 03/06/2004 9:40:31 PM PST by malakhi
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To: ApplegateRanch
Barbie is buhbye
73 posted on 03/06/2004 9:41:12 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: af_vet_1981
Actually, I was in 7th grade at the time and told my parents. They felt it was best to stay out of it in that 1. The three Jewish friends were also in 7th grade 2. The Jewish Community was in such an uproar, cry "Antisemitism" that I, as a blue eyed, blond Christian would likely be persecuted and/or ostracized for coming forward with the truth. 3. I made my friends promise not to engage in such a stupid activity and do something good for their house of worship.
74 posted on 03/06/2004 9:41:50 PM PST by AUH2OY2K
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To: wirestripper
While forgiveness might be the "Christian" thing to do ..I think we need to remember that George Washington was a slave owner... and I dont think we are not supposed to forget the Vietnam War....uh, and remember the Alamo.

I bet there are a few other things the liberals want us to remember, but I forget what they are.
75 posted on 03/06/2004 9:42:20 PM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: Antoninus
"Then, I'll show you a teenaged miscreant or two who should be punished."

You are also jumping to conclusions. No matter WHO did it, teenagers or whomever it IS an anti-semetic incident. It IS antisemitism. And let us both agree that certainly that would be upsetting to the members of that congregation. People just don't like their places of worship trashed. And we certainly agree they should be punished.

IF it was caused by the movie we don't know. It is possible that the suspects said to themselves, "Lets trash this place so these people will blame it on the movie." That seems odd. More likely it was "Lets upset these Jews. "

76 posted on 03/06/2004 9:43:13 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: AUH2OY2K
I found out that the anti-semites were my three Jewish friends who figured out how to get inside the synagogue when it was locked to the public.

And therefore this must be the case here?

77 posted on 03/06/2004 9:44:14 PM PST by malakhi
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To: woofie
It is true, that our society has been on a victimology binge for some time.

Recent press about some black activists passing out white supremicist literature at a college indicates to me that they are desperate to keep it going.

I cannot say for sure that what happened here is related to this kind of disgusting stuff, or if it is just plain vandalism, but people know how to get attention and press and it would not surprise me to see more of this.

78 posted on 03/06/2004 9:49:23 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: malakhi
Just an anecdote, and perhaps a thought that one should reserve judgment until all the facts are in.
79 posted on 03/06/2004 9:49:25 PM PST by AUH2OY2K
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To: malakhi
What particular thing do you think the members of this synagogue did to bring this on themselves?

I think they were the random victims of some nut who got the idea from listening to the hype about the film being anti-semitic.

80 posted on 03/06/2004 9:50:55 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: wirestripper
Actually I believe Denver is notorious for skin head activity....what motivates those folks I have no idea.
81 posted on 03/06/2004 9:53:23 PM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: malakhi
You don't think its reasonable that they would find this upsetting?

Frankly, no. If there is one thing God's people should have figured out by now, it's that they will be targeted by those who aren't.

But to paraphrase Rabbi Daniel Lapin's book "America's Real War," if American Jews don't stop making irresponsible accusations of anti-semitism against American Christians, they're going to alienate the only friends they've got.

82 posted on 03/06/2004 9:58:29 PM PST by Woahhs
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To: woofie
They were at one time, back in the late 90s.

I have not heard anything recent.

I think they became anarchist's.

83 posted on 03/06/2004 9:58:34 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: woofie
This stuff has happened on and off all the time everywhere...so now it just "happens" to be the movie's fault? B.ravo S.ierra to that. I am so sick of the made up bs and copouts that the media reports as "fact" when it's pure crap.

[go ahead Indie, tell 'em how you really feel!]

84 posted on 03/06/2004 9:58:52 PM PST by Indie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: wirestripper
The only thing anti-semantic about Passion is what negative critics put into small minds.

Anyway, who ever did this aren't likely to have been to see a Jesus movie.

85 posted on 03/06/2004 9:59:44 PM PST by oyez
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To: malakhi
What particular thing do you think the members of this synagogue did to bring this on themselves?

Locally, we've seen clergy burn their own churches.

86 posted on 03/06/2004 10:02:42 PM PST by oyez
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To: wimpycat
"There's no way in the world to prove that the movie DID spark the incident."

Right.

"But, I agree that the vandalism is not a joke. I hope they catch who did it, whoever it is."

Right. And these are the right reactions.

87 posted on 03/06/2004 10:05:46 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: malakhi
Why would you think that?

As I said above, 1.) I've heard of other incidents like that which ended up being perpetrated by Jewish teens, and 2.) If you were dealing with adult anti-semites of the skin-head variety, they might have tried to burn the place down.

I saw The Passion of the Christ tonight. There's not the slightest thing anti-Semitic about it and I certainly felt not the least anger toward "the Jews" afterwards.
88 posted on 03/06/2004 10:06:06 PM PST by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment NOW!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
"Wonder why they didn't think it was just a run of the mill skinhead?"

Because you can't sue skinheads for inciting violence etc., etc. Well, you can, but you won't get a very big settlement. On the other hand . . .

This from Forbes:

"At the close of its fifth day in theaters, the controversial The Passion of the Christ movie officially grossed $125.2 million, and industry experts anticipate that the international box office sales could hit $650 million by the end of its run."

Foxman and the gang would dearly love to be able to pin something on Gibson. They failed to force him to bowdlerise the script, and they failed to scare people away from the film with the claim that Gibson is a neo-Nazi. They failed to nag the Pope into condemning the film.

So now that Gibson's project has seen the light of day AND has become a major money-maker, how about a class action suit to cash in?

Grounds? How about for inciting hate crimes? $650 million means pretty deep pockets, and the jackals are salivating at the prospect of being able to cash in.

89 posted on 03/06/2004 10:06:36 PM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: malakhi
I would say that there is a lot more anti-Christian sentiment out there than anti-Jewish... Funny, you don't here the Christians whining.

Maybe because Jesus said, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake."

As a Catholic, I consider the Jewish people my family, but you guy's have got to develop a little thicker skin.
90 posted on 03/06/2004 10:07:02 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: woofie
Colorado huh? That's where the ADL has to pay the couple whom they defamed $12.5 Million. Was this defacing of the synagogue caused by the ADL defaming those people?
91 posted on 03/06/2004 10:07:17 PM PST by per loin (Very Secret News: ADL to pay $12M for defaming Colorado couple.)
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To: oyez
The only thing antisemitic about Passion is what negative critics put into small minds

Yes, and don't they realize the harm that they can do?

Why is it that they keep the drums beating?

They cannot hurt Gibson or the films success. They can only incite bad feelings in those who will never understand their fears. Fears that until now, were never attributed to this country or our Christian population.

Fear that was attributed only to a few despicable people.

92 posted on 03/06/2004 10:08:06 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Woahhs
"Frankly, no. If there is one thing God's people should have figured out by now, it's that they will be targeted by those who aren't. "

Oh come on. Of course it is upsetting.

93 posted on 03/06/2004 10:10:31 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
People just don't like their places of worship trashed. And we certainly agree they should be punished.

Agreed

It is possible that the suspects said to themselves, "Lets trash this place so these people will blame it on the movie." That seems odd.

It would seem odd to me as well ... if those reporting the incident hadn't tried to blame it on the movie right out of the chute. Because of that, it doesn't seem odd to me at all...
94 posted on 03/06/2004 10:10:50 PM PST by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment NOW!)
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
"Grounds? How about for inciting hate crimes? $650 million means pretty deep pockets, and the jackals are salivating at the prospect of being able to cash in."

That's those Jews for you, in it for the money.

95 posted on 03/06/2004 10:12:04 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: Last Dakotan
How can someone who had the mental toughness to survive the Holocaust be so taken a back by the graffiti of a very few juvenile thugs?

Listen. Whoever lived through the Holocaust is old. He was a small child during the Holocaust and saw things he'd rather not remember. It may have started with a few swastikas on his local synagogue. It may have continued by him no longer being able to attend school, or go to the same park. And then the jackboots came in the dead of night and took away his Daddy...

How do I know? These are my father's own memories. If my father were to see that again today, it would break his heart, too, to think even for a second that his grandchildren might have to go through what he and our family did.

96 posted on 03/06/2004 10:13:43 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Antoninus
I saw The Passion of the Christ tonight. ... I certainly felt not the least anger toward "the Jews" afterwards

My reaction as a Christian was very personal, as I believe Mel Gibson's reason for making the film was. We Christians are so anquished with apologizing for our sins with every stroke of the lash, that we don't really think about everyone in the film being Jewish or Italian....

97 posted on 03/06/2004 10:14:27 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
Because you can't sue skinheads for inciting violence etc., etc. Well, you can, but you won't get a very big settlement.

The Aryan Nations would disagree 6.3 million times...

98 posted on 03/06/2004 10:14:33 PM PST by tubavil
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To: Antoninus
There's not the slightest thing anti-Semitic about it

I'm not surprised that is your perspective. I wouldn't expect you to see the movie the same way a Jew would.

99 posted on 03/06/2004 10:15:32 PM PST by malakhi
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To: babygene
"I would say that there is a lot more anti-Christian sentiment out there than anti-Jewish

We are keeping score?

... Funny, you don't here the Christians whining."

Would that be because we are better than they are?

100 posted on 03/06/2004 10:15:45 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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