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To: Exigence
"Secondly, the average American doesn't want to be finessed."

With due respect, you are SO wrong. Finess is what kept clinton in office for 8 years. Clinton was the beginning of our now Bachelor, Fear Factor, Apprentice society who only wants to experience the superficial parts of our society.

Bush is sincere, but his uh's and duh's and repeated general talking points are no match for a kerryclinonesque smooth talking style.

Americans no longer look at substance and results, they are enamored with sweet talk and promises and style. This is a fact.

53 posted on 09/30/2004 11:20:23 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: A Navy Vet
Americans no longer look at substance and results, they are enamored with sweet talk and promises and style. This is a fact.

Your saying it doesn't make it a fact.

Here's a fact. Flash polls after the first Bush-Gore debate gave it clearly to Gore. Smoother, sighs notwithstanding. Better style. Won the debate...

A few days later, polls gave the debate to Bush by 8 points. Initial impressions fade as folks begin to ponder the substance.

56 posted on 09/30/2004 11:23:02 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: A Navy Vet
Americans no longer look at substance and results, they are enamored with sweet talk and promises and style. This is a fact.

If that were the case Al would be president right now:')

59 posted on 09/30/2004 11:25:07 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: A Navy Vet

"finesse kept clinton in office for 8 years".....no......


women and ross perot got him elected twice....


61 posted on 09/30/2004 11:28:13 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: A Navy Vet
Finess is what kept clinton in office for 8 years.

Not at all. What kept Clinton in office was "I feel your pain." In short, his connection to the folks. Kerry doesn't have that. He has the polish, but not the connection. Gore had the polish, too -- but also not the connection. Some of the folks trusted Clinton -- and Clinton took a lot of what were essentially Republican positions to help them out. There is not a single indication in any poll that Kerry enjoys that trust or ever has and he's inarguably the most liberal candidate in modern times. Clinton was a dog, but he was a consistent dog. Not so Kerry. Plus, Clinton pulled Reagan Democrats in the South. Kerry isn't even making a blip there and nothing that he said tonight will change that. Your cause-effect analysis is faulty.

62 posted on 09/30/2004 11:30:22 PM PDT by Exigence
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