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Christian video alledges Beach Boy Brian Wilson is Satanic (fascinating video link).
www.goodfight.org ^ | February 28, 2005 | tame

Posted on 02/28/2005 4:02:39 PM PST by tame

I accidentally came across an interesting thing at www.goodnews.org, the website for a ministry know as the Good News Defenders. The following video "feed" documents Brian Wilson's (and the Beach Boys) troubled past, and alledged ties to Satanism:

"THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS FOR ROCK AND ROLL"

I found it fascinating, but presumptuous to assume that Brian's well known auditory hallucinations are actual demons (or the like).

Good News Defenders goes overboard in drawing false inferences from certain facts. Still, there are some interesting things mentioned that Are, in fact, true:

)1) Brian Wilson DOES here voices (auditory hallucinations) that scream obsenities and say things like "We're going to kill you", etc. This was well documented by Brian himself, along with his wife Melinda, on Larry King Live.

Also, Brian's keyboardist, Darian Sahanaja, spoke in an interview about his own eyewitness of one such event in Brian's home. Brian apparently screamed to Darian that "they" were going to kill him (Brian). Brian was apparently referring to the voices he was hearing.

2) Brian Wilson DID "freak out", thinking that some of his recording sessions for the legendary SMILE album (alledgedly a track titled FIRE) caused a rash of fires in the Los Angeles area.

3) The Beach Boys (especially Mike Love) DID get involved in Transcendental Meditation. This included an overseas trip with the Maharishi.

4) Charles Manson, and members of his "family" DID live with Beach Boy Dennis Wilson for a while (see Vince Bugliosi's book, Helter Skelter).

5)The Beach Boys DID record a song written by Manson BEFORE the Manson family murders (I know, spooky, huh?).

There are other things that are clearly documented as well which are mentioned or alluded to in this video.

But here's the thing. The makers of this piece assume far too much, engage in fallacies (ad hoc, etc.) and therefore draw faulty conclusions.

For instance, the Beach Boys had NO idea how wacked out Charles Manson was. In fact, most of the Beach Boys' circle apparently viewed Manson--an unfortunate friend of Dennis--as an irritating hanger-on.

How did Dennis meet Charles Manson? Dennis happened to pick up a couple of girls hitch-hiking on the freeway who also happened to be members of Manson's "family". Now, this might be a sure sign you shouldn't pick up strangers (Ya THINK?). But it hardly demonstrates premeditation to get involved with a cult, much less a murderous cult.

Yet the good fight ministry video makers seem to imply as much.

Also, they seem to fail to recognize a certain possible distinctions between mental illness (which Brian Wilson clearly has), and demonic activity and possession.

The video makers indicate that Brian was merely a channel through which demons passed their music.

Sorry, I don't buy it. I believe in demonic influence, too be sure. But to generally assign ALL of the Beach Boys/Brian's music to Satan and his demons? No.

Still, I enjoyed the video footage of Sean Lennon's (John Lennon's son) interview of Brian Wilson, and the great footage of Brian performing California Girls.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: beachboys; brianwilson; fightthegoodfight; ministries; satanism
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1 posted on 02/28/2005 4:02:42 PM PST by tame
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To: JennysCool; shield; Mama_Bear; onyx

ping


2 posted on 02/28/2005 4:03:28 PM PST by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the TRUTH as leftists are for a LIE???)
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To: tame

Of course we all remember that Beach Boy classic album "Surfin' With the Devil."


3 posted on 02/28/2005 4:07:15 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: tame

Sheesh. All this time I thought Mike Love was Satan.


4 posted on 02/28/2005 4:07:54 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: All
correction. this groups is fight the Good fight ministries, NOT to be confused with "Good news defenders/ministries"
5 posted on 02/28/2005 4:08:04 PM PST by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the TRUTH as leftists are for a LIE???)
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To: tame

Sure, Brian Wilson has had emotional problems for over 40 years. That's pretty hard to deny. But I don't think he's capable of any coherent philosophy of any kind. Yes, Mike Love went through his TM stage in the late 60s, but like many from that era recovered and is now a practicing Republican who was a friend of Ronald Reagan. Despite the flashes of weirdness in their personal lives, the music the Beach Boys will always be known for celebrated normalcy and good times. Now I feel a need to run over to the sound system and put on "I Get Around" and "Dance Dance Dance." My four speed dual quad positraction 409.


6 posted on 02/28/2005 4:11:31 PM PST by speedy
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To: JennysCool

Dr. Landy was Satan.


7 posted on 02/28/2005 4:12:44 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: tame
This is the type of thing that gives some devout Christians a rep for being, well, crazy weirdos.

Brian Wilson is known to have had mental problems (and a drug problem). To anyone living in the 21st century rather than the Middle Ages, the explanations lie in brain chemistry and narcotic self-medication, not "demons" unless you use that term highly metaphorically. Meanwhile, the Manson connection to Dennis, aside from being interesting trivia, doesn't have anything to do with anything.

It is not unreasonable, by the way, to postulate that his mental problems may have influenced his music to some extent, at least the material from perhaps Pet Sounds on. Note that in some cases (Pet Sounds certainly) the result was deeply beautiful, hardly "Satanic" or "demonic". One might indeed say, for example, that much of that material was the result of Brian Wilson "working through his demons".

But I sure hope you'd be speaking metaphorically when you say that :-)

8 posted on 02/28/2005 4:13:55 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: dfwgator
Of course we all remember that Beach Boy classic album "Surfin' With the Devil."

rotflmao! too funny. love that tag line, btw.

9 posted on 02/28/2005 4:14:07 PM PST by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the TRUTH as leftists are for a LIE???)
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To: dfwgator

Don't forget "Be True To Your Hell."


10 posted on 02/28/2005 4:15:10 PM PST by speedy
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To: JennysCool
Sheesh. All this time I thought Mike Love was Satan.

Now, now :o)

11 posted on 02/28/2005 4:15:30 PM PST by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the TRUTH as leftists are for a LIE???)
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To: tame

I couldn't get the video clip to open. I'll check back later.


12 posted on 02/28/2005 4:15:53 PM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: dfwgator

Good point.

Since Brian was the author of one of the first pop songs with "God" in the title -- "God Only Knows" -- I have a bit of a problem with the allegation.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 4:16:56 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: speedy
Now I feel a need to run over to the sound system and put on "I Get Around" and "Dance Dance Dance." My four speed dual quad positraction 409.

"Keep an eye on summer" and "your summer dream", too.

14 posted on 02/28/2005 4:17:02 PM PST by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the TRUTH as leftists are for a LIE???)
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To: tame
3) The Beach Boys (especially Mike Love) DID get involved in Transcendental Meditation. This included an overseas trip with the Maharishi.

Oh my goodness. Witch! Witch!

15 posted on 02/28/2005 4:17:11 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Zack Nguyen; weegee; Californiajones; CobaltBlue; Mount Athos; JellyJam; AMDG; MikeD; cvq3842

Beach ping.


16 posted on 02/28/2005 4:19:22 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: tame

This reminds me of a Maranatha video I saw in college about backmasking. Their premise was that supernatural forces were to blame for the messages supposedly present on some music played backwards.

Here was the sum total of their stellar reasoning for eliminating other possibilities:
--- a deliberate act of the artists: "it's too hard. if you don't believe us, try it yourself."
--- total random chance: "if that's the case, then we should be just as likely to hear positive or neutral messages like 'worship Jesus' or 'eat toast' as we are satanic messages."
So you see, it just HAD to be supernatural.

Of course, even when they told you in advance what it was you were going to hear, it just didn't come through when they played the backwards music. Were you aware that one of Cheap Trick's songs played backwards says "Satan Holds The Key to the Lock"? Neither did I. Only despite the video's claims, it really doesn't.

There was, however, one exception: "Another One Rights The Bus" played backwards really DOES sound like "Start to Smoke Marijuana"---at least if the speaker has marbles in his mouth :)


17 posted on 02/28/2005 4:20:08 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: tame

Didn't Wilson once say that 'Smile' was his teenage symphony to God or something like that?


18 posted on 02/28/2005 4:20:30 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: mcg1969

I meant "Another One Bites The Dust", of course. I managed to mix up Weird Al Yankovic and goodness knows what else there.


19 posted on 02/28/2005 4:21:20 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: tame

What happens when you play it backwards?


20 posted on 02/28/2005 4:22:30 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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