Christian video alledges Beach Boy Brian Wilson is Satanic (fascinating video link).

www.goodfight.org ^ | February 28, 2005 | tame

[tame]

i hate to bother you with this, but at the beginning of my article i listed IN BOLD PRINT, no less, the group "Good news defenders". that was the wrong group, and it might bring unwanted and undeserved hostility toward that group. any way you could edit out the references to "GOOD NEWS DEFENDERS" in those couple of spots, and replace with "GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES"??? Please, please, please :o)

tame.

[gimme1ibertee]

I'll have to go along with you on that. Whenever I hear "Little Deuce Coupe" or "I get around", it simply does not conjure up images of Beelzebub,bub.

[tame]

What happens when you play it backwards?

If i play a beach boys record backward and then i hear it say:
"everybody vote for the democrats"
or
"i wish they all could be democratic girls",
THEN i'll think there MIGHT be something to Good fight ministries' position :o)

[Republicus2001]

the Beach Boys crowd was into The Process, a hippie-cult based out of Santa Barbara and Hawaii. Cf. Maurice Terry's The Ultimate Evil. You might be skeptical but THEY aren't...

[tame]

This reminds me of a Maranatha video I saw in college about backmasking.

i don't remember that one, but seems similar.

[tame]

Note that in some cases (Pet Sounds certainly) the result was deeply beautiful, hardly "Satanic" or "demonic".

i agree with you in many cases. also, some of our most beautiful art comes out of intense pain, and...emotional trauma and instability. i write songs (see my profile page) from such pain, myself.

btw, one of my fave track on PET SOUNDS is LET'S GO AWAY FOR A WHILE. BEAUTIFUL!

The PET SOUNDS LIVE cd by Brian accomplished the almost impossible (thanks in large part to keyboardist Darian Sahanaja (truly a purist) who wanted to stay true to the originals: The live versions of the title track PET SOUNDS and LET'S GO AWAY FOR A WHILE sound as good as, if not better than, the originals.

they sound close to the originals while paradoxically they sound so fresh and new to our culture--beyond the originals.

[tame]

but the key phrase in my written thoughts stands true: But to generally assign ALL of the Beach Boys/Brian's music to Satan and his demons? No.

[Maceman]

Don't forget "Be True To Your Hell."

Or "Beelzebub Only Knows."

[Mama_Bear]

I watched the video clip. I have to say it was quite depressing.

I am certainly not an authority on Brian Wilson or the Beach Boys, but FWIW, my take on this is, Brian Wilson has been controlled by many things in his life; mind crippling drugs, a psychologist who literally held him captive for years, drug induced paranoia, etc., but I don't for a minute believe that he is "Satanic". Is it too simplistic to conclude that the hell he lived through for so many years was the consequences of drug abuse, pure and simple?

Now I have an overwhelming feeling of sadness for him and what he has lived through, even if it has been self-inflicted.....still, it's very sad.

He has an amazing talent and I am happy he is writing music and performing again, and that he finally won his Grammy. You are right, tame, it was long overdo.

[Mama_Bear]

If i play a beach boys record backward and then i hear it say: "everybody vote for the democrats" or "i wish they all could be democratic girls", THEN i'll think there MIGHT be something to Good fight ministries' position :o)

LOL!!

[tame]

Don't forget "Be True To Your Hell."

Or "Beelzebub Only Knows."

and may we never hear, "Help me, Satan."

[Mama_Bear]

and may we never hear, "Help me, Satan."

Amen to that!

[Mama_Bear]

BTW, I am listening to "Baby" as I surf. :-)

[Mama_Bear]

Ooops...I should have linked that........tame's "Baby" MP3. :-)

[speedy]

Ooh, those are good ones (and obscure.) Kind of like "Our Car Club" and "Don't Hurt My Little Sister."

[speedy]

Yep. Also "When I Grow Up To Be A Man." Sounds pretty innocent to me.

[tame]

Is it too simplistic to conclude that the hell he lived through for so many years was the consequences of drug abuse, pure and simple?

i believe he had a very strong disposition to mental illness with or without the drugs. the drugs played a major part, to be sure. but my own personal feeling is Brian would be dealing with a lo of stuff even if he'd never taken drugs. i may be wrong. just a guess.

i think Brian and Melinda indicated that Brian's drug use was really not that much by 60s rock and roll standards (he only did acid 3 or 4 times").

Now I have an overwhelming feeling of sadness for him and what he has lived through, even if it has been self-inflicted.....still, it's very sad.

Yes, i agree. If ever anyone needs the love that Jesus and his church provides--the love of the saints--it's Brian Wilson.

And, oh, whata love he would receive from the christian community. i remember once i ws reading a brian wilson/beach boys fan page, and there were christians on there who LOVE brian, and the non-christians who love brian were bashing the christians, and the debate was ongoing.

for some reason, brian has a lot of fans in christianity.

one popular christian artist put out a song titled, JESUS LOVES YOU, BRIAN WILSON. it was a very nice, moving biography of the influence brian had on this christian and how much brian means to the christian--a plea, of sorts, for brian to turn to the Lord who loves him for the final solution to brian's demons.