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Is 24 better than Lost?
tv.com ^ | March 24, 2006 | tv.com

Posted on 03/27/2006 7:41:58 PM PST by paltz

Make no mistake: TV.com loves Lost. We just love 24 more. It might not seem fair to compare the two shows, as one is a straightforward terrorist action drama and the other is a character-based supernatural drama, but who cares. The bottom line is, one show delivers the goods, and one show strings viewers along interminably and pretends to be "about" something.

Nowhere has this been more evident than in the latest season of 24, where major characters are dying off right and left. Lost makes a big deal when one lousy, irritating character is accidentally shot, but 24 has cycled through almost all of the original cast in the space of half a season.

Let's face it--both shows have writers who don't know where they're going. On 24, they are constantly writing themselves into corners, then they think of crazy, outlandish ways to get out of it. On Lost, they have all these characters milling around with nothing to do, and then have to find meandering mysteries for them to be involved in. Only 24 resolves these problems in a satisfying manner--someone gets shot or poisoned.

Both shows have dumb blonde women. 24's is Jack's daughter, Kim. Any 24 fan can regale you with stories of Kim's misadventures through the first two seasons. She is at least laughably bad, as when she was caught in an animal trap and attacked by a cougar. Lost had Maggie Grace, who was just a cringingly bad actress.

Both shows have lovable fat guys. Yet even here, 24 utilized its fat guy to maximum effect. Edgar Stiles was killed by terrorists when they released Centox gas at CTU, thereby manipulating loyal viewers into feeling rage and sadness. Lost's Hurley stole a bucket of ranch dressing.

Both shows have angry psychotic men. Lost's psycho is Sawyer, who is sometimes scary but is also fun and irascible, jauntily joking as he wears broken glasses to read a book by the seaside. 24's psycho is Jack Bauer, who is only a psycho if he thinks that you are a terrorist, at which point he must torture you.

Both shows have characters who are recovering drug addicts. Charlie is an ex-pop star who became addicted to heroin because his brother did. Jack Bauer forced himself to use heroin to stop terrorism. Jack Bauer made heroin usage honorable.

There is a deeper "character flaw" at work on Lost: many of them are all over the map. Jack Shepard is tough, then he's a pansy, then he is noble, then he wants to start an army; Sawyer is a criminal, then he is a hero, then he is a wacko who puts hits out on Sun, hordes the medicine, steals all the guns, and crushes a tree frog; Charlie is a gentle soul who fights his personal demons, then he succumbs to them, then he is a wacko who beats up Sun, then he is lovable again; Kate is a gritty criminal, then she softens, then she likes Sawyer, but then she likes Jack, and so on.

This past episode, "The Whole Truth," illustrated that point: in a fit of anger, Jin pulled Sun's garden out of the ground. This was out of character for him, even for angry Jin, but especially since Jin and Sun made up after he was mean through most of season one. He may have been gruff and cold to Sun, but he was never disrespectful and spiteful.

On 24, Jack is only one thing: a terrorist fighting robot. You can count on Jack to kill anyone who stops him from his goal and to yell at various points during the season "We don't have time for that!" and begin torturing someone.

Ultimately, only one show delivers the goods on a weekly basis: 24. Lost doles out one or two enigmatic tidbits but never reveals anything. Often, the episode wraps up with a montage of the characters going about their business to a syrupy acoustic-guitar melody. 24 episodes wrap up with someone dying, then the sound of beeping, unless it's an extra poignant death, in which case there is silence.

It's only fun to be in the dark if you feel like you're being taken care of. On 24, you know that no matter how implausible and crazy it seems right then, by the end of the season the bad guys will be dead and Jack will have decimated his personal life in the process. On Lost, will we even get to learn what "the countdown" is? Will we learn what that grey smoke-thing is? Where is the polar bear? Will we ever actually know what the mystery of the island is? More importantly, do the show's writers even know? Lost is the perpetual tease, and it's becoming too much.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24
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To: Rastus

I've bought a few now and then (not that many, to tell you the truth), and only when someone particularly striking to me appears inside. I remember Jerri Ryan and Lucy Lui purchases.


41 posted on 03/27/2006 9:19:30 PM PST by FivebyFive
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To: FivebyFive

Ghost Whisperer is light, but I need something to balance out the brutality of Prison Break. It seems like a fairly conservative show, so that helps.

Michael Rosenbaum does a great job every week. He's definitely the best actor on the show.

I think VM will make the transition to the CW, though the ratings aren't terrific. Putting it against Lost is pretty lame. It's moving to Tuesdays next month. It better survive the cut.

Can't fault the Jeri Ryan purchase. Resistance is futile!


42 posted on 03/27/2006 9:33:13 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness
Is there even a Lost thread?

Yes, but we can't find it.

43 posted on 03/27/2006 9:41:13 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Walk softly, carry a big stick... and don't forget to connect the dots ...)
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To: FivebyFive
. . . my fave series of all time, the legendary Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I was astonished how good that show was, considering how cheesy the movie was that was its namesake.

44 posted on 03/27/2006 11:18:23 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Americanchild

She's not pouty.
She just hasn't had time to develop a poker face.


45 posted on 03/28/2006 3:59:11 AM PST by aspen64 (Fight crime. Shoot back.)
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To: misterrob

Yes,Jack had a full hour last night! And geez, doesn't anyone ever get tired or have to go to the bathroom?


46 posted on 03/28/2006 5:23:33 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Armedanddangerous
I personally think he has a rusty Kbar knife and the name of everyone who doesnt watch 24 in it. He's gradually working his name through the list, and cleaning the knife after each visit.

LOL!

47 posted on 03/28/2006 5:25:20 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Or drink a cup of coffee or smoke (gasp!)?


48 posted on 03/28/2006 5:29:53 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: paltz
Perhaps it is a relatively minor point, but at least the last couple of seasons 24 does not take two or three week hiatuses. That clock is running until Jack kills the last bad guy. Lost takes too many multi-week breaks.
49 posted on 03/28/2006 5:43:17 AM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Larry Lucido

OMG....Vic is going to be REALLY, REALLY pissed!!! I can't believe the season's over. SHIELD is the best show, EVER EVER EVER.


50 posted on 03/28/2006 6:02:38 PM PST by Hildy
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To: paltz
Both shows have dumb blonde women

Lost had two, now has only one.

52 posted on 04/04/2006 8:28:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Larry Lucido
I just want to know what Vic Mackey is going to do when he figures out that Shane killed Lem. Sorry, Jack.

Thank you for reminding everyone of what the REAL best show is...although it loses a vote for having so few damn episodes. The last two episodes of The Shield this year was as good as any tv I've ever seen.

53 posted on 04/04/2006 8:32:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Yep, I hope the find a way to keep it going a few more seasons.


54 posted on 04/04/2006 9:06:56 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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