YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE …Is coming national ID 'mark of the beast'?

WND ^ | May 5 06 | Ron Strom

[sinkspur]

I fear the government creating a database and dossier on its citizens. I fear them using it to track where I go, what I do, how fast I drive, etc.

Are you always this paranoid? Are you one of those people who go to football games and think that, when a team goes into a huddle, they're talking about you?

[TheForceOfOne]

He's not one of them. lol

Nothing in that skull should be considered of importants.

[Kaylee Frye]

What's all the fuss about. I've had a national ID since 1967. It's called a passport

Agreed. And then there's military id's and the like which are also federally issued. Sorry, but until they try to embed something in my body, I'm not going to freak out.

[BlueStateDepression]

If I have an ID that has my picture and my print or my eyescan or even my DNA, how exactly would you forge that? In addition if these ID's are part of one database od ID, how could a forged ID be part of that database?

[sinkspur]

I refuse to be controlled.

You must be single.

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

"Virtually unforgeable"

Sounds like the White Star Line's publicity department and their famous "practically unsinkable" claim when gushing over their newest ocean greyhound, the RMS Titanic

[sinkspur]

"We're all going to die without a national idea!"

Did you just watch "A Beautiful Mind?"

[TheForceOfOne]

You already have one. It's called a Social Security #

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

Economic Ludditism? Not hardly.

Its called COMMON HORSE SENSE.

[Hambone02]

Beast

[steve-b]

The same people with their hair on fire over immigration don't want the single best tool

Lying again. Pretty much all of them want to build a barrier on the southern border.

[rattrap]

Because? Clearly the "virtually unforgeable" $20 gets forged, so a national ID card would be subject to the same thing rendering it useless to track criminal activity and only useful for tracking responsible citizens.

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

You're an authoritarian statist, ain't'cha?

[sinkspur]

How does this make logical sense?

It makes sense to me. But, then, I'm not obsessed with the idea that government wants to know when I go to Wal-Mart or to the gun shop.

Nobody cares what I do except my wife and my boss.

[BlueStateDepression]

Couldn't the same be said of anything the government does that singles out individuals? How does a gun law single me out individually?

federal government is authorized to assign such numbers to the citizenry?

The congress is tasked with forming our laws. SCOTUS is tasked with reviewing their legality. Are you seriously disputing this?

In the begingin the SS# was for one purpose and it has since been used for another purpose. The reason being that ID was essential for the function of this nation. I laugh at you if you really think that this nation can function at its current state or grow without an ID. Laughable. Unrealistic.

I want the national ID and approve of it. THE ABUSE of such a thing is a different story. You can try to make them the same thing if you want to but that doesn't make what you are doing hoenst or true.

[steve-b]

LOL -- people get busted for counterfeiting all the time (which implies the existence of others who counterfeit and don't get caught).

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

I don't want ANY national ID.

Governments only want IDs to control people. Well, in a free country I don't think I need to be controlled. So there.

[american spirit]

There's a little thing called the 4th Amendment amigo......." the right of the people to be secure in their PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED.........what part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Congress has no authority to pass a law repugnant to the Const. nor should we be forced to follow any such law. As for personal responsibility......I'd offer that if the fedgov had 1/100 of the personal responsibility traits exhibited by most Americans and many on this forum there would be no issues such as illegal immigration, runaway deficits, out of control spending, etc.

[steve-b]

Invoking superstitious magic numbers gets the attention of a few million people and thus throws another monkey wrench into this Big Government plan. Bring 'em on.

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

No, I never have trusted the federal government.

Why should I?

I trust only God and the Constitution, and that document does NOT need to be expanded or reinterpreted in any way.