Posted on 06/28/2006 8:02:28 AM PDT by Tancred
If one person on that train would have had a concealed handgun permit, there would be six people dead instead of one.
But you do in your inner cities.
I know the difference between inner cities and those areas outside inner cities.
And let me let you into a secret they exist in Europe as well.
You have city crime we have city crime.
And there is not much difference between the two.
If you want to compare, compare city with city, slum with slum.
Tony lives in England. Open daylight muggings are common in London. My brother's roommate got attacked in broad daylight in or around a subway, beaten and robbed. Similar attackers.
Sorry, but I don't believe your Subway story. Nice try.
You guessed right.
No it was 1993 on a A Train
I was sickened when I read that line.....no moral fiber.
I was sickened when I read that line.....no moral fiber.
I think there may be a ripple effect from 9/11 that reaches beyond "terrorism" and hijackings. I think that people in the US are a little more willing to get involved now, a little more willing to put a stop to things like that bus beating, than they were five years ago, following the example of the passengers of United 93, and the folks who stopped Richard Reid. Maybe I'm an incurable optimist, I don't know.
A lot of it also depends on where the incident would happen. In "blue" cities like NYC, I could see the sheeple sitting back and averting their eyes. But if a bunch of yoots pulled the same thing in Texas? They'd have a much higher chance of being on the receiving end of the beatdown.
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Want an example of Americans? Flight #93. If I'm not mistaken, in the movie, there was a man from Europe suggesting that the passengers go along with the terrorist demands. Europe!!!!
LOL not even in down town LA, New York Chicago, the city of brotherly love and all those other delightful places.
Still, quite some time ago. New York is a very different place now; it was even before 9/11. Since 9/11, the likelyhood of such a thing happening is vanishingly small.
Tony -- don't be dull Pom. The issue in most of the discussion on this thread is NOT that the US doesn't have youthful miscreants ... rather the issue is how the citiznry reacted during and AFTER the incident.
These Belgians felt powerless and acted cowardly. They LET a man be beaten to death. Then they looked to an inept and impotent State to "do something" about it.
During the Rodney King riots/ Reginald Denny incident you saw the worst of US "youths". The recent wanton shooting by "youths" in a Las Vegas casino is another example.
IT's not that it doesn;t happen -- it's about how American society and individuals would and do react differently than the Belgians quoted herein.
This is not to paint ALL Belgians with the same brush -- just the ones quoted in the article; and to point to a malaise inherent in a society where the citizens cannot and will not protect other members, and the State is apparently uninterested in doing so in fact.
Ahhhh Euroupe they're just so much more civilized then the US /extreme sarcam...
A sting type operation would solve this. Hire a bunch of "soccer hooligans" to pose as feeble passengers and when the thugs climb aboard and start taunting, they give them a bit of their own medicine.
The water in the lobster pot is getting warmer and warmer not just in Belgium, but all over in the western world, United States included. The actual temperature, in degrees F/C however varies country to country. We all need to wake up more and ensure our pols do what is needed.
No we don't. Our ghettos are not like yours. In our ghettos you'll find drug dealers and pimps making money, not packs of wild animals running crazy.
We have examples of people having a go over here as well, but it wont be reported on FR, because you yanks wont be able to feel all smug about it.
Daylight muggings are rare in America because everyone has cell-cameras. They will take pictures and post it on the internet before the victim gets to the hospital.
"C001. W4tch th1s guy g3t h1s azz kiked".
Don't give Belgium too much credit in WWII. Two things about their ignominious King Leopold III:
In 1936, Leopold announced a fundamental change in foreign policy; Belgium abandoned its military alliance with France in favor of a return to neutrality; thwarting French efforts at self-defense by refusing admittance even to French military observers.
On May 27th, 1940, Leopold, without consulting the government (or France or Britain), requested an armistice, and on May 28th, he surrendered. The government fled to Britain and attempted to fight on, but the surrender struck a blow to the heart of Allied morale.
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