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To: sauron
There has to have been a Great Uncaused First Cause. It won't turn out to be a thing, but a BEING. God. Why? Because things (universes) don't create THINGS. Beings create things, in the end. It's all about ORIGINS.

None of that is necessarily true because as I said outside the universe **anything** could be possible. When you say "it won't turn out to be a thing" there is no way to know that. It could be - because anything could be possible outside our universe. The concept of "beings" might not even make sense outside our universe. Causation might not even make sense. There may be concepts outside our universe that are similar to causation and logic that we cannot even comprehend. In short any hypothesis about the origin of our universe is just a total wild guess.

434 posted on 08/06/2006 9:17:00 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith
There may be concepts outside our universe that are similar to causation and logic that we cannot even comprehend.

Indeed!

NIV Isaiah 55:8-9
8. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. 9. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

NIV 1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" --

435 posted on 08/06/2006 11:43:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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