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To: sandbar; mystery-ak; Halls; Rte66

IMO Ten years in the General population of a prison would be a life sentence for John.

BTW, the X DA was just on Court TV saying they could have gotten his DNA from the envelope he sent the prof.....I said that a couple of days ago.....He'd better catch up!

FYI an abuser is not considered "mentally ill". Abuse is considered a behavior disorder and not treatable.


1,907 posted on 08/25/2006 7:36:09 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

"FYI an abuser is not considered "mentally ill". Abuse is considered a behavior disorder and not treatable."



...from everything I have read on the subject that statement is true...that is why there is so many repeat offenders....once they are caught, they should never be allowed out in the general population.


1,909 posted on 08/25/2006 7:45:26 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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>>>IMO Ten years in the General population of a prison would be a life sentence for John. >>>

My aunt said that to me the other night. She said any way you look at it, it looks like we are going to have a funeral to go to before it's over. Whether the DP or murder.


1,911 posted on 08/25/2006 7:47:24 AM PDT by sandbar
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A few points to catch up with:

1. Could that mug shot make Karr look any more creepy? The lighting looks like one of those Hollywood movies where they try to make you look evil. Of course, with all the photo tricks coming out of Beirut, maybe the Boulder folks do their own photoshopping. Or maybe he really does look evil.

2. Nate's doing what any brother should do. They stand up for their family mamber and force the prosecutors to prove he was at the scene of the crime. People keep forgetting that it's the prosecution who has to prove Karr was in Boulder, not the family who has to prove he was not. If this is going to turn into trail-by-media, somebody from the family needed to jump in and speak for the family, even if they don't have all their facts lined up yet.

FWIW, I have my own black sheep brother who drifts in and out of our lives. He's the sort that one could picture joining a convent or shooting up a post office and say to yourself "it's possible". But if he were accused of something like this, I guarantee you I would publicly challenge the prosecutors to prove it was him and prove he was there. I wouldn't lie for him, but I'd make the prosecutors back up their claims. He's family and because he's family, we're going to defend first and wait for the facts to contradict us.

3. Sonoma County, CA says they alerted the Boulder folks about Karr in 2001 when he was up on the kiddie porn rap and noted him blabbing about the JBR case. The Boulder folks weren't interested then. Now the DNA in the panties that did not come from a family member angle surfaced in 2002 (the Rocky Mountain News had a story saying it could have been DNA from when it was manufactured in Southeast Asia from somebody coughing or sneezing). In 2003, they took what they could make of this DNA sample and the DNA sample under JBR's fingernails and ran it through a national crime database of 1.5 million perps which turned up nothing. Wouldn't Sonoma County, CA have taken a DNA profile of Karr, a known kiddie porn guy with possible pedophile history and a fugitive from justice, and added that to this national database in 2001? And if not, why not? So, is it possible Karr's DNA has already been compared and came up not a match?

4. The "police must have something on Karr they aren't telling us to have him arrested in Thailand" angle seems to be getting weaker by the day. FWIW, I don't fault Boulder for arresting him and bringing him in. He certainly has behaved like a person of interest, they've tried to locate him for months, they found their chance and seized it. Karr could have vanished on them and we would then never know if he was the killer or not. But I think that's essentially all Boulder has to go on is the psuedo-confession of this guy and his odd communications with the CU professor. This case has been a black eye for Boulder going on ten years. It doesn't surprise me at all that they want desperately to resolve this for their own sake and would be willing to go halfway around the world to bring in a possible suspect. It doesn't mean they have much more than that to go on.


1,919 posted on 08/25/2006 8:22:26 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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