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To: Eagle Eye
Geeeze...reading a book doesn't give you the place to say silly ass stupid things and expect any credibility.

My claim is not based on my erudition but on empirically observable facts. I referred readers of this thread to Steyn because, being a gifted writer, he makes the same empirical argument far more lyrically and enjoyably than I can.

Using contraception is NOT in essence the same as converting to Islam.

I didn't say that it was essentially no different. I said it was practically no different.

Jumping off a 30 story building intentionally and accidentally falling off a 30 story building are essentially two different actions, but they have the same practical consequence.

Your so called logic isn't valid.

Oh, but it is, as I've explained.

So to you a young couple not ready for children are ceding the world to Islam?

A statement I never made.

Or a couple trying to plan and space their children are ceding the world to Islam?

Another statement I never made.

Or an older couple no longer wanting to raise children ceding the world to Islam?

Another statement I never made.

Or women who risk health consequences from pregnancy and use birth control are ceding the world to Islam?

Another statement I never made.

And anyone who isn't married and doesn't want children are ceding the world to Islam?

Yet a fifth statement I never made.

With enough of these 'exceptions' to your rule, the rule no longer rules.

The issue is people who pathologically prefer creature comforts to having families.

And the consequences thereof.

214 posted on 10/10/2006 11:20:32 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
What does it portend that everyone seems to take a demographic argument personally? Are we incapable of viewing trends and commenting on aggregate behavior?

SD

226 posted on 10/10/2006 11:28:01 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: wideawake

You are so busted on your dumbass statement that even though you tap danced better than Gregory Hines you still have all the precision of thought of Natalie Maines.

Yep, since using contraception is "practically no different" than converting to Islam, a young couple using the pill while avoiding unwanted pregnancy is practically turning over the West to Islam.

Yes, I understand that Europe has had population drops to the point of being unable to sustain their population but that doesn't mean that Islam is the logical result.

Your statement is about the most bizarre of statements I've ever seen from a supposedly sane person.


248 posted on 10/10/2006 11:41:54 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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