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Florida vaults to No. 2 in BCS, will play Ohio State for national title
LA Times ^ | 12/3/06 | Chris Dufresne, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 12/03/2006 2:41:24 PM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: subterfuge
Oh , buddy You do not know me! I will be here . Maybe you won't and I don't care if you are, but take my word on this ,I will be here.Word of advise Michigan will cream USC in a heartbeat. NO problem! If Michigan loses with I deem impossible I will be here. I am a Michigan fan a long time , took some good , took some bad, but I am not from Fl I do not cut and run , and I know how to vote too.
321 posted on 12/04/2006 1:12:44 PM PST by betsyross1776
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To: subterfuge
Look this is play time in here. This is la la land and not real life. I have been in politics and this is nothing. You Fl babies and your wacky coach , you are in la la land. isn't it time for the clowning class. 42% graduation rate in your football program, and a wacko for a coach who is a big baby, what a school . Instead of football, teach people down there how to vote in national elections.
322 posted on 12/04/2006 1:18:07 PM PST by betsyross1776
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To: betsyross1776

Your transference (I know thats a big word, get someone to explain it to you) of a national election 2 years ago to college football is kind of funny.

I don't know if the snub to "Mi" snapped a blood vessel in your brain or what so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and leave you alone, since you are a registered FReeper. But I suggest you sit back and just read the forum for awhile until your blood pressure goes back down.


323 posted on 12/04/2006 1:24:23 PM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: subterfuge

ONe thing more tell your student council pres not to spend the money and resign. Just type in google and what to my wondering eyes do appear but a whole list of Fl scandals.


324 posted on 12/04/2006 1:24:32 PM PST by betsyross1776
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To: betsyross1776

Post 'em up betsy.


325 posted on 12/04/2006 1:25:38 PM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yet we have an increasing number of coaches who say we are going to get a playoff, sooner or later. And this year even conference commissioners bringing it up.

It's unfortunate from our standpoint that Michigan didn't get the nod for the game - then the SEC would have even more to be pissed off about and might decide to look elsewhere.

Right now, as it stands, the bowls make too much money, and certain schools/conferences are very comfortable with how the BCS pays them off. They don't want that to change.
326 posted on 12/04/2006 2:04:03 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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The 12-Team BCS Bowls Playoff

Simply expand the BCS from 10 teams to 12, and add 4 playoff games between the BCS bowls/bowl season and the (currently mythical) national championship game.

Keep the BCS, BCS bowls, and all the other bowls, but modify it into a 12-team playoff, with just 5 additional playoff games after the New Year's bowls (and actual a net of just 4 additional games.) Right now 10 teams go to 5 bowl games based out of the 4 BCS bowls (with the bogus mythical nat'l champ game being a 2nd game for one of the BCS bowls on a rotating basis.) There is talk of going to a +1 playoff format, where the top 2 BCS bowl winners meet in a nat'l champ game. But that would likely require either going back to 8 BCS teams (very unlikely for political reasons) or adding a 5th BCS bowl. Doing the latter wouldn't hurt the BCS revenues one iota, the original 4 BCS bowls could still keep to themselves the final champ game on a rotating basis and the new 5th BCS bowl could have a separately negotiated TV contract if they were worried about it diluting their existing TV contract.

For that reason expanding to a 6th BCS bowl and 12 BCS teams won't hurt the existing BCS bowls and would provide an excellent 12-team playoff that preserves all the bowls, includes virtually every team that has a legitimate claim to being the best, doesn't interfere with finals week, and only strenghtens the existing BCS bowls and revenues. It also provides a better chance of including deserving minor conference teams. Plus if you drop the limit of 2 teams per conference down to 3, it should take away the criticism that a potential actual best team (such as Wisconsin or LSU/Auburn) gets frozen out if a conference is very top heavy.

Round One: Add 2 BCS bowls, choose 12 teams using the BCS, and play the BCS bowl games during the New Year's holidays, just as always. They can seed them 1-12, or follow the traditional format of the Big 10 (sic) and Pac 10 champs meeting in the Rose and each of the other 4 bowls hosting a conference champ, then seeding the 6 wildcards based on rankings. Keeps all the existing bowls, doesn't have to change the number of bowls, number of bowl teams, or the bowl season at all. They can move up 1 existing bowl and create a new BCS bowl (perhaps in the new Dallas Cowboys' retractible roof stadium in Dallas) or move up 2 existing bowls and add a replacement minor bowl. So all the coaches, schools, conferences, and bowls are happy and don't lose anything.

Round Two: At least a full week after the BCS bowls, give the highest-ranked two winners a bye, and have the #3 & #4 ranked winners host campus home games against the #6 & #5 winners.

Round Three: The Final Four, have the bye teams hosting campus home games.

Round Four: The actual national championship game is played in a BCS bowl, rotated among the original 4 BCS bowls, just as it is now.

With 12 BCS teams you get 6 conference champs and 6 wildcards, guaranteeing that even in the worst case the top 6 teams will get into the playoff, and most likely the top 9 or 10 teams, or even all 12 if there are no upsets. It is virtually certain that the actual best team in the country will be in the top 9 or 10 BCS rankings at the end of the year, as opposed to many years where the actual best team doesn't make the BCS top 2 or the #1-ranked team loses their bowl (which by nature suggests that the polls were wrong and thus may have been wrong about who the actual top 2 teams were.)

In that format no school hosts more than 1 playoff game. The existing BCS bowls (and all the other bowls) keep as many games as they have now, with no watering down of the BCS bowls but rather a strengthening since all of them now matter. With no more than 2 games per weekend after the New Year's bowls there shouldn't be any interference with the NFL playoffs. All the traditions remain and the regular season and conference championships still matter (6 wildcards isn't many, especially since 1 or even 2 slots will often go to a minor conference teams, and they could add a rule that only conference champs can host a playoff game.) And the crowned champ has to beat ON THE FIELD 3 or 4 legitimate playoff teams, rather than posing, campaigning, and/or riding an overrated conference's reputation or legacy high initial poll ranking to a 1-game crap shoot. In reality this playoff system only adds a net of 4 extra games to what exists now. Just 4 additional games, all in January, so the university presidents' objections are shown to be completely bogus.

12 teams in a playoff assures that the resulting champion really is the best in the country. And in the process changes the final game from a fraudulent bogus mythical faux-championship that is nothing more than a figure-skating exhibition between 2 beauty contest winners into a legitimate title game.

Of course there can be variations on this basic structure. They could always start with the current format of 10 BCS teams and give byes to the top 3 BCS bowl winners while having the #4 & #5 winners play in a single round two game to fill out the Final Four. It can also be expanded to an optimal 16 team playoff format if the byes are eliminated and 2 additional bowls added to the BCS.

A 10 or 12-team BCS playoff may not be as perfect as jumping straight into a 16-team playoff, but it is far more feasible and politically doable. In fact if the will is there, this could be done in the next few months, or a year at most. They chose to add a 5th bowl and went to 10 teams in between seasons, so the precedent is there. The Cotton and a Florida bowl (and others) would be beating down the BCS doors to step up and be the 5th and 6th bowls. It is time to institute a playoff, and there are ZERO good excuses for not doing so.

How would a 12-team BCS bowl playoff look this year?

Bowl, BCS ranking, Team, (* indicates BCS conference champ, wildcards distributed by ranking)

Rose: 1 OSU* vs 5 USC* (assuming they choose to keep the traditional Pac 10- Big 10 (sic) matchup)

Sugar: 2 FLA* vs 11 ND

new bowl: 6 LOU* vs 9 AUB

Fiesta: 10 OU* vs 8 BOISE

Orange: 14 WAKE* vs 7 WISC

new bowl: 3 MICH vs 4 LSU

If they stuck with the 10-team BCS and 2-teams per conference maximum (followed by a Round Two of three byes and the #4 & #5 winners playing for a spot in the Final Four):

Rose: 1 OSU* vs 5 USC*

Sugar: 2 FLA* vs 11 ND

new bowl: 6 LOU* vs 8 BOISE

Fiesta: 10 OU* vs 4 LSU

Orange: 14 WAKE* vs 3 MICH

10-team BCS and no or 3-teams per conference max:

Rose: 1 OSU* vs 5 USC*

Sugar: 2 FLA* vs 11 ND

new bowl: 6 LOU* vs 7 AUB

Fiesta: 10 OU* vs 4 LSU

Orange: 14 WAKE* vs 3 MICH

16 team BCS, no restrictions, straight seedings (other than the Rose Bowl, no byes in Round Two):

Rose: 1 OSU* vs 5 USC*

Sugar: 2 FLA* vs 16 RUTG

new bowl: 6 LOU* vs 15 VA TECH

Fiesta: 10 OU* vs 13 WV

Orange: 14 WAKE* vs 12 ARK

new bowl: 3 MICH vs 11 ND

new bowl: 4 LSU vs 9 AUB

new bowl: 7 WISC vs 8 BOISE

16 team BCS, 3-team per conference max, same conference matchups avoided in first round (BCS bowls) if possible (similar to the NFL's format):

Rose: 1 OSU* vs 5 USC*

Sugar: 2 FLA* vs 18 CAL

new bowl: 6 LOU* vs 15 VA TECH

Fiesta: 10 OU* vs 16 RUTG

Orange: 14 WAKE* vs 12 ARK

new bowl: 3 MICH vs 9 AUB

new bowl: 4 LSU vs 11 ND

new bowl: 7 WISC vs 8 BOISE

16 team BCS, no or 4-team per conference max, same conference matchups avoided in first round (BCS bowls) if possible (similar to the NFL's format):

Rose: 1 OSU* vs 5 USC*

Sugar: 2 FLA* vs 16 RUTG

new bowl: 6 LOU* vs 15 VA TECH

Fiesta: 10 OU* vs 13 WV

Orange: 14 WAKE* vs 12 ARK

new bowl: 3 MICH vs 9 AUB

new bowl: 4 LSU vs 11 ND

new bowl: 7 WISC vs 8 BOISE

All options are a vast improvement over what we have now, with all games having meaning, and a true national champion earning it on the field.

327 posted on 12/04/2006 2:29:19 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 12-team BCS bowls-based playoff can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Don't be too negative about Florida in the BCS game with the Buckeyes. I do think, even as someone like myself who pulled for UGA growing up, that the Gators will come to play and will have a chance to win, even though It will certainly be a challenge. My view is that the Nebraska team that beat Florida with Tommy Frazier at QB would have run numbers all over this current Ohio State Team. Best of luck to the Orange and Blue and bring a BCS championship home for the Gators, and especially the SEC!!!!


328 posted on 12/04/2006 3:22:51 PM PST by JR7767
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To: dfwgator
I misspelled the Ole Miss coach's name, it's Orgeron.

Does he need flowers?

329 posted on 12/04/2006 3:24:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I have heard on Fox Sports Radio where John Fricke and Chris Landry talking about a 4-team playoff, or even a 6-team playoff where the #1 and #2 seeds would get a bye and the 3-6 seeds would play the first round. Whether it is those scenarios or the one you propose, it would be much, much better than this dinosaur bowl fiasco that college football division 1 is screwed with.


330 posted on 12/04/2006 3:29:02 PM PST by JR7767
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To: JR7767

Anything that gets us to at least 1 post-BCS game that matches BCS bowl winners is a vast improvement. That breaks throughs the ice and gives us a 4-team playoff, and an evolution to a 10-16 team playoff becomes inevitable.


331 posted on 12/04/2006 3:36:48 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 12-team BCS bowls-based playoff can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: dfwgator

Nebraska made the national championship 5 years ago after getting demolished by Colorado, and didn't even win the Big 12. So how was that game a playoff game?


332 posted on 12/04/2006 5:36:36 PM PST by Nate505
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To: Defendingliberty
Florida has a chance...Recall 1983 Nebraska the Team of the Century vs. Lowly Miami in the Orange Bowl...
Or for that matter, the 2003 Fiesta Bowl that was supposed to be a coronation of Miami against the "do they really belong there?" Buckeyes.

I doubt Tressel is taking Florida lightly, but I do expect the Buckeyes to win.

TTUN already had their chance.

-Eric

333 posted on 12/05/2006 5:08:27 AM PST by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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