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Some bumps on the road to Vista
CNET News.com ^ | 02/07/2007 | Bry Ina Friend

Posted on 02/07/2007 9:03:47 AM PST by Swordmaker

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To: rlmorel

Good to know... that would have helped when I was trying to work with an office that had a mac and could not run the Access Database I had created until they bought a PC to do it.


41 posted on 02/07/2007 5:10:32 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: rlmorel
Apple makes its money off of hardware. They tried licensing their OS to third parties back in the 90's, and it was a disaster for Apple financially. They have a completely different business model than Microsoft.

steve jobs, "I Coulda Been a Contenda... but I failed, so buy my hardware that you don't need"

42 posted on 02/07/2007 5:17:53 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Publius6961

Publius, for whatever it is worth to you, my husband and I have making our living over the past three decades in architectural design and construction management, with some consulting to manufacturers of architectural components.

Just his brain, management skills, and li'l ol' housewife me, figuring out how to track it all on a Mac, including the management of over 15 million bucks worth of contruction contracts and sub-contracts on the behalf of our clients.

Could never have done this with a PC or any of Mr. Bill's buggy software. NEVER!


43 posted on 02/07/2007 5:43:18 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Echo Talon
I know that part of what you're doing is just chain-yanking, but comparing Jobs to Terry Malloy is a little silly. I was checking on a couple of things, and MS turned 44 billion in revenue last year, but Apple turned 21 billion, and Jobs also has significant interest in another little company called Pixar. While there's a lot of snazzing back and forth about Apple not having a large market share, but in terms of revenue, this company with 5% market share produces nearly half as much revenue as the big boy.
44 posted on 02/07/2007 5:49:36 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Echo Talon

ET, what is that all about? You don't need to discuss things that way here. Why don't you contribute positively? Tell us what you like/dislike about Vista?

Comments like that one don't add anything.


45 posted on 02/07/2007 5:51:37 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Publius

And, by the way, li'l ol me figured out how to manage all the subcontractors confusing contractual schedules, screwy bills, whether they had completed the section of work they were requesting payment for, therefore whether they should be authorized for payment, etc...

Added on to this were all the change-orders, addtions, and subtractions from contracts, and then final accounting for every last penny to each and every client. When we started, I realized that none of the expensive business software available back in the Apple IIe days were designed for this type of job accoutning, so I figured out a system that would work using the simple old database that came for free on the IIe, named Appleworks.

Sometimes less really is more, if you know what to do with it.


46 posted on 02/07/2007 5:52:43 PM PST by jacquej
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To: HairOfTheDog

If you haven't worked with Filemaker, it is a real treat...it is completely cross platform, the software works almost exactly the same on both Windows and Mac, the files are completely cross platform and the best thing is:

It is about 95% as powerful as Access, but...is so easy to use I show people how to use it, and newbies, even those with so-so computer skills get into it and within hours of experimenting are setting up their own databases! It is just too cool. It is one of my favorite applications.


47 posted on 02/07/2007 5:57:19 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: rlmorel
Apple makes its money off of hardware.

Which is why it's so good. The new version of software might really rock too, they seem to be hitting a groove right as Microsoft sort of seems to be stumbling. Apple needs better virtual and enterprise/directory support though, it's still more of a home-use operating system despite Job's constant attempts to get in the business market big. The move to Intel was smart, although overdue, it's too bad Jobs wasn't there to make those decisions earlier. He seems to be showing up Gates lately though, if not at the bank, on the circuit. The only thing Apple really lacks in my opinion is hardware diversity. But, I understand why they don't offer it.

48 posted on 02/07/2007 5:59:56 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: rlmorel

I like Access and like working with it... but like I said, it's good to know that if I ever have to work with a Mac office regarding databases again, at least there's an option out there now.


49 posted on 02/07/2007 6:07:40 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

LOL...sorry...I just cannot read your screen name without thinking of Jack Nicholson in "The Shining"...:)


50 posted on 02/07/2007 6:14:06 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Richard Kimball
MS turned 44 billion in revenue last year, but Apple turned 21 billion

That's great, that Apple and Microsoft both are doing so well. Some were predicting a rise in "free software" instead, which I think had its brief moment of glory, but reality returned and people realized basing your business or home computers on complete freeware is hardly a smart decision. Apple is actually a more expensive proposition than Microsoft and still is hanging with Linux.

51 posted on 02/07/2007 6:15:08 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Swordmaker

Screw em, Vista made me learn Linux (still learning)

Used to be that you owned your computer and operating system.

Now you pay Microsoft for the right to have them run your system the way they see fit.

Hopefully some good pirates of Vista will come out, I ain't spending $400 bucks for it.


52 posted on 02/07/2007 6:15:35 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: jacquej
I figured out a system that would work using the simple old database that came for free on the IIe, named Appleworks.

Appleworks is one of the most important pieces of software ever. How Microsoft was able to legally release "Microsoft Works" later, which was one of the most critical pieces of Microsoft software ever (predates "Office"), how they were able to do that remains a mystery to me. It's too bad Apple either wasn't able to defend the name "Appleworks", or didn't try to, since that was a huge piece of "desktop computer" history.

53 posted on 02/07/2007 6:20:19 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Central Scrutiniser
still learning

Was your "free" software worth it?

54 posted on 02/07/2007 6:23:03 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: rlmorel

Is there a HairOfTheDog reference in the Shining? I don't remember it. :~)


55 posted on 02/07/2007 6:24:03 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Golden Eagle

Yep it will be.

I've been using computers since my Vic-20 and I enjoy learning new things. Linux is something I can embrace, open source and free.

I already use Open Office, which I find superior to the Micro$oft Office package, and I only use Internet Explorer for one website which I need it for, everything else I do on the net is via Firefox 2 or Opera.

Yep, the free stuff is better than the craptastic DRM laden, overpriced, defective by design Vista.


56 posted on 02/07/2007 6:26:01 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

When he is sitting a the bar, talking to the imaginary bartender...he holds up his glass with that Nicholson look and says (I think) "Hair o the dog that bit you, Harry! Hair o the dog that bit you!"


57 posted on 02/07/2007 6:26:55 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Yep, the free stuff is better than the craptastic capitalistic DRM laden, overpriced, defective by design Vista.

Your spell-checker must be broke.

58 posted on 02/07/2007 6:29:42 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: HairOfTheDog; rlmorel

HOTD you didn't know this? Ever heard of "Nazareth"? LOL ;-)


59 posted on 02/07/2007 6:33:03 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Now, I am embarassed...what is the reference to Nazareth?


60 posted on 02/07/2007 6:35:39 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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