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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: sodpoodle

IMO — and just MO — it will be very, very difficult to prove wrongful death for ANS (not in the case of Daniel). Look back at the old article posted her the past three months... how many stories was there about ANS demanding her drugs? Don’t think that won’t affect a potential jury, it will... Not saying HKS is innocent, but proving he is not innocent — especially if Moe and his wife and others are unwilling to talk will be very difficult and Florida sets the bar to win a wrongful death suit very high....


10,261 posted on 05/03/2007 4:22:26 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Dante3

What makes you think Larry has something going on with Larry? Virgie???? She said they were living together and that wasn’t true....and the stepmother knows a lot, that not one of us on this thread knows, about what has really gone on the past three months in the Bahamas... perhaps we will know the story one day and then we can say what his stepmother said was right or wrong.


10,262 posted on 05/03/2007 4:25:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: SundayGardener

I have as much right to “take up bandwidth” on the subject as you do...


10,263 posted on 05/03/2007 4:26:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: TrishaSC

Thanks.. remember the dad and stepmother spent a couple of weeks in the Bahamas with Larry before he left to go back to California prior to the DNA test/


10,264 posted on 05/03/2007 4:28:28 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

” The way I understand they only put them into foster care if there is not a grandparent, aunt, uncle, etc.,, willing to take them then they can send them to an OOS relative.”

I just re-read my post to you and I want to clarify that I am not trying to be flip or cavalier in my answer to you. What you might detect is exasperation with an overburdened, ineffectual system.

What you wrote is what most people - logically, lovingly believe ought to be able to occur. I agree with that perspective.

My tone - of frustrated anger at the reality of the situations is from working within the courts there, working with both caring and indifferent workers, therapists and judges and knowing how harsh and overworked the entire system is and has been for many, many years. Sadly what you wrote just is too naive and too sweet to occur even with the utmost effort.

The system has developed very protective,rigid measures to justify it’s actions or inactions/inflexibility as a way of attempting to not break down completely.


10,265 posted on 05/03/2007 4:30:26 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: TrishaSC

Isn’t that funny? You made a simple mistake, and we’ll be hearing about the awful “stepmother” for a few months....simply because someone missed your most recent post.

Not that I’m faulting you, but that’s what happens when the news reports something, it’s found as false, and everyone gets carried away by it, and reports it as fact.

Like I said...I’m not faulting you. It was an honest mistake.


10,266 posted on 05/03/2007 4:30:45 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn
You can call it vengeance or whatever you want to. If I were in VA's place and my child and grandson died under these circumstanced, I sure would want to see justice done and not have them labeled as NHI - as Perper and Wecht have dismissed them.

A wrongful death suit was applauded in the OJ case. And it certainly it proper here in view of the facts. ANS was drugged with drugs prescribed for HKS - he had to provide her with them, etc.

HKS and KE are the villains here. The trashing of an elderly woman - who lost a daughter and grandson - has taken on an ugly and obsessive quality.

10,267 posted on 05/03/2007 4:31:10 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I would be curious to know how much scrunity would fall on the Seminole PD and Perper in a wrongful death suit. I do think it would blow the lid off if it could be shown that the case was handled improperly.


10,268 posted on 05/03/2007 4:32:29 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“”””If it requires having custody of Dannilynn “””

Virgie has publicly stated she does not want custody(physical possession) of DL, just guaranteed visitation rights.

Guardianship(representation such as Milstein had)would give Virgie legal standing to in legal decisions/hearings when Larry does not have the stomach for it. i.e. wrongful death suit against HK$ and KE.

i.e. in probating Anna’s 2001 will - Virgie and Larry could represent the best interests of DL who IIRC is excluded as a beneficiary. Larry really does need Virgie’s gutsy attitude in exposing HK$’ despicable reign of terror.


10,269 posted on 05/03/2007 4:36:18 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Dante3
In California the Goldman family were able to bring the suit because they lost there son... there was a direct line of loss. Florida is more difficult. Pull it up and look at it.

I just cannot justify using that child for vengence. There has been too much pain already in her little life, she needs to be away from all of this an in a happier living situation.

10,270 posted on 05/03/2007 4:36:26 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: TrishaSC

If OQ can figure out a way to do this that doesn’t involve Virgie having to have custody of Dannilynn -—then go for it...


10,271 posted on 05/03/2007 4:37:28 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: toldyou
We have all made honest mistakes. The media has become far too sloppy, not only regarding this story but others also. One story where they went wild was the Duke lacrosse case. Another was the Kinsey experiments. And some information they hide and coverup such as President Kennedy’s mistresses.
10,272 posted on 05/03/2007 4:37:55 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

“The trashing of an elderly woman”

Elderly woman? Who is that?


10,273 posted on 05/03/2007 4:39:30 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn

They already have..it’s called co-guardianship which is what is being attempted in the Bahamas. She won’t have custody.


10,274 posted on 05/03/2007 4:39:31 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: toldyou
New article

Larry Birkhead & Anna Nicole Smith Baby: The Battle for the Cash

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By Jo Anne Way

May 3, 2007

Larry Birkhead and his baby girl are finally home. The little infant girl of the late Anna Nicole Smith and her proud papa landed in the US and are in Larry's home state of Kentucky. The 7-month-old baby girl of cover girl Anna Nicole Smith and her only living heir arrived at a Kentucky on Tuesday and that is where they should remain.

Larry Birkhead & Anna Nicole Smith Baby: The Battle for the Cash

The custody battle over Dannielynn Birkhead is not over yet, grandma, Virgie Arthur, still fighting tooth and nail for Dannielynn and control of that half-a-billion-dollar stake the baby may inherit, the parties set to square off for another legal showdown in the Bahamas. The battle for what many believe is the cash - will continue. There is a hearing scheduled for June 8 in the Bahamas.

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Access Hollywood has some incredible pictures of the 'homecoming' and this report: Welcome home, Larry Birkhead.

Judy Birkhead's request to her brother (or was it an order?) signaled a much needed return to normalcy for a man who has spent the past 6 months telling the world he was, indeed, the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby, and three months battling in the Bahamian courts to take her home. The first thing she asked Larry, "Hey Larry, would you take the garbage out?"

The legal wrangling, the relentless media pursuit, it was, at least for now, all behind him. Larry, physically and emotionally drained, was happy to be surrounded by the people he loved, surrounded by people overjoyed to have the newest Birkhead family member home.

Dannielynnn sat contentedly on her father's lap as the Birkhead clan - sister, brother, parents, niece and nephews - gathered in a family room, chatting about the events of the past, the challenges that lay ahead and the love and support they have for each other.

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This is Larry's baby - the battle for whatever money may come should be over. I'm guessing it is not.

10,275 posted on 05/03/2007 4:39:58 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Her point about the fact that now everyone who does not leave a will can have a judge appoint an ad litum to decide where they are buried - is indeed scary! It is ridiculous!!!!!

Its not only ridiculous -- it is incorrect. ANS did not have a GAL assigned to her. ANS' next of kin, Danielynn had a GAL assigned to watch over her legal interests because Danielynn was an infant.

Those who do not leave a will and have next of kin who are over legal age will not have a GAL appointed to them.

10,276 posted on 05/03/2007 4:40:20 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: nynjanais

For kids that is a sucky system.....


10,277 posted on 05/03/2007 4:40:29 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I know Florida is different. No way is DL used for vengeance. When she grows up, she surely would apprecaited if justice was done to her mother. You might consider ANS a NHI - many do, but that does not justify those causing ther death to be given a pass.


10,278 posted on 05/03/2007 4:41:25 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: sodpoodle
Howard Stern publically told Larry King he was the father and he stated last night to Brook from Showbiz tonight that when HKS told him that he didn't believe him....

I didn't believe HKS when he said that back in September, I don't beleive Virgie when she told Greta.

10,279 posted on 05/03/2007 4:41:47 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Lizarde

that is really “trailer trash talk” - is she from Texas? sarc/

We weren't all born here -- but we got here as soon as we could! And I've met more trailer trash on the East coast.

10,280 posted on 05/03/2007 4:42:19 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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