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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

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To: Arizona Carolyn

“I think we are going to learn this is much deeper... OQ didn’t fly to the Bahama’s yesterday for his good health or to get a tan when Virgie already was represented by Deborah Rose there.”

I said from the very beginning that O’Quinn and Virgie want the money....even if LB was determined to be the father. I never trusted her...sorry folks.


4,522 posted on 04/13/2007 1:09:03 PM PDT by toldyou
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Ok...ya’ll have me thoroughly confused....who’s fault is it HKS or VIRGIE???

Some are blaming one, some are blaming the other?

For whatever it’s worth, my 2 cents stands as I stated this morning. Virgie does NOT want custody, but she MUST ask for it, even though she would settle for temporary guardianship (in the Bahamas) and a visitation schedule in the State. As I said earlier....

“Surely LB understands this is just strategy. She’s got to ask for more than she expects to get, and keep up the request for custody, just in case HKS decides at any given moment to do a reversal and fight LB on custody, which he WILL do should Virgie and Larry agree to more than what HKS wants Vergie to have.” It’s what Anna would have wanted, blah, blah, blah. At some point, however, IMO the COURT is going to have to determine what, if any, standing HKS has/no longer has so that LB and VA can work out visitation without threats from HKS.”

IMO, Larry and Virgie came to an arrangement that HKS didn’t like, though “he’d have been willing to have had LB take custody”, except he left out the part that says “ just as long as Virgie can’t touch the baby”!!! It’s what HKS has been threatening all along...apparently OQ fully expected it.

HKS won’t allow LB full custody, oh, he says he will, but he won’t if Virgie gets more than he wants her to have. Virgie, on the otherhand, doesn’t want much, and can’t even come to any sort of agreement with Larry, because HKS is forcing her to have to ask for CUSTODY (same as HKS is threatening) just to even be able to hope for freeking visitation.

I’m really ticked off right now, but bottom line... If HKS would STOP threatening to take CUSTODY, Virgie would STOP asking for custody and she and Larry could work out visitation. And if LB wasn’t such a nice guy...he’s stop trying to broker peace and call HKS’s bluff. Work out an arrangement with Virgie, WITHOUT HKS’S INVOLVEMENT, take it to court and if HKS fights him for custody, then BRING IT ON HKS!! BRING IT ON!
AGHHH.


4,523 posted on 04/13/2007 1:12:29 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: toldyou
wow and here i thought she just wanted to be part of her granddaughter’s life... I feel bad for Larry, telling us all along he was the daddy, then he proves that, now he gets to "visit" his baby and has to leave her there. How sad!!
4,524 posted on 04/13/2007 1:12:36 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I tell you it is Virgie...

I can't argue with you because I didn't hear it. I saw the posts that HKS was at the microphone and speculation that he was involved in the postponement. If Virgie continues to push for full custody, I will agree with you that she is more interested in the money.

Does anyone know if she had contact with Daniel before he died, and if she did...when was it? I'm curious as to how often she made contact with him. He was not always with ANS and could have easily contacted Virgie had he wanted to.

4,525 posted on 04/13/2007 1:13:30 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“No, fight... my intuition is working overtime on this.... and it is seldom wrong.”

My intuition is seldom wrong, too. Not that I’m smart. I just had this feeling it was all about the money when Virgie was fighting for the body. Now it’s the poor baby. Dannielynn belongs to live only with her young daddy.


4,526 posted on 04/13/2007 1:15:13 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: PeskyOne

Debra Opri indicated in an interview that she had another client for whom she had to work now. She is tough and toughness is what is needed it appears.

I’m afraid it’ll be a cold day before HKS gets his due -sociopathic slime that he is.

I don’t know how LB maintains control of himself. I hope he has a closet where he can throw a fit and cry ‘cause I can’t imagine he doesn’t want to and he can’t afford the appearance of ‘unfit parent’.


4,527 posted on 04/13/2007 1:20:51 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT(everything not sourced should be regarded as IMO))
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To: Lizarde

Wouldn’t that be filed in Florida or even Texas?


4,529 posted on 04/13/2007 1:25:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Lizarde

I really haven’t heard anything from the media. All I saw was the look on Larry’s face, and the wide grin on O’Quinn’s and a smile on Virgie’s. Larry wasn’t smiling.


4,530 posted on 04/13/2007 1:26:25 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

Body language speaks volumns.


4,532 posted on 04/13/2007 1:27:48 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Lizarde
I think Virgie and Larry did have an agreement. I think that Howard had a SEPARATE agreement between himself and himself saying: this is what I think would be best and it excluded Virgie entirely based on an audio tape...probably the tape that matches the video pretty close. The Court was forced to consider it.

Howard is REALLY out to "gain time" and destroy Virgie right now because it causes a conflict with Larry's goodness.

Kinda like saying: "Larry doesn't know Virgie. He's too soft. I do! I know she was an evil mother and will be an evil grandmother."

Good thing that Seidlin got us some info on Virgie...otherwise we'd only know about the video that he "contrived". Boy, Anna was "dumb" and "drugged". Nice job Howard!! You'll rot in hell.

4,533 posted on 04/13/2007 1:37:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Southerngl

I don’t believe that Larry said that because it violates the gag order.


4,534 posted on 04/13/2007 1:39:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: toldyou

“I’m guessing Larry thought he’d get custody today.”

The only way LB MIGHT have gotten custody today is if he had made a deal with the devil, HKS, and promised not to allow Virgie visitation.

If he was intending to allow Virgie to see the baby and if he thought that doing so was going to be fine with HKS, who won’t even let her TOUCH Daniellynn, then LB better wise up and learn to play hardball. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

Get tough LB....get tough!!!


4,535 posted on 04/13/2007 1:42:26 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: PeskyOne

“He was not always with ANS and could have easily contacted Virgie had he wanted to.”

I agree. There are FReepers here who probably remember more than I do, but I THINK she hadn’t seen him for about ten years. Yes, he could have seen her and she could have visited him if either wanted to. I always thought that was strange.

But then again, she first had a child out of wedlock a year before Anna was born, then was married five times. In my opinion, I would say she was kept quite busy with husbands, kids, step-kids, and other grandchildren, plus a full time job? That’s a lot of juggling going on. I can’t imagine having time for Daniel.


4,536 posted on 04/13/2007 1:43:41 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Lizarde

Will do. I must have missed something.


4,537 posted on 04/13/2007 1:45:45 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

IIRC...didn’t someone testify that Anna threaten Daniel...told him he could NOT contact Virgie?


4,538 posted on 04/13/2007 1:47:08 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

It does not give Virgie a cut of the money.


4,539 posted on 04/13/2007 1:47:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Then why would a grandmother want custody of a grandchild when there is a sweet, capable father?


4,540 posted on 04/13/2007 1:50:18 PM PDT by toldyou
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