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To: Jane Austen; All

I totally agree. Virgie is the scapegoat, the role HKS set up for her. While this criminal, Howard, gets away with murder of all sorts, including murder of a person’s name and reputation.

I think that members of the public who are swayed by his portrayal of her must be living some amazing fantasy because the FACTS speak for themselves and they all point to his complicity in the deaths of Daniel and ANS. But hey, why argue FACTS when it’s so easy to get hysterical and vent your venom on the most vulnerable person (and least photogenic) out there- the woman who lost her child and grandchild. Makes me wonder how many people hate their mothers or something. Virgie is a scapegoat. Period.

Man, this thread began deteriorating when the Virgie bashers came on board with such incredibly fallacious reasoning. There is SO MUCH wrong with HKS’s behaviour, and so many FACTS that point to him as a money hungry, callous psychopath, that anything Virgie does or did do pales in comparison.

Damn, there’s just something so wrong and inhuman about picking on (and with such single minded venom) the one person who has lost the most.

PS. Those lists are very, very helpful for keeping this thread on track. That’s why I love this thread and keep coming back. Kudos to those who put in so much hard work, and those who add to the knowledge base, whether it be law, social services, psychology, new facts, etc. Back to lurking.


10,544 posted on 05/04/2007 12:51:40 PM PDT by fluffytoo (I have known psychos, and you, sir, are a psycho.)
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To: fluffytoo

“”””Damn, there’s just something so wrong and inhuman about picking on (and with such single minded venom) the one person who has lost the most.”””

Amen!

missing your wisdom - huury back;)


10,545 posted on 05/04/2007 12:54:46 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: fluffytoo
Excellent statement. You summed it up perfectly. Only HKS gains from that hysterical bashing.
10,553 posted on 05/04/2007 1:16:32 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: fluffytoo
PS. Those lists are very, very helpful for keeping this thread on track. That’s why I love this thread and keep coming back. Kudos to those who put in so much hard work, and those who add to the knowledge base, whether it be law, social services, psychology, new facts, etc. Back to lurking.

Thanks for giving Virgie a much needed break, and ditto for your post script!

10,562 posted on 05/04/2007 1:44:20 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: fluffytoo; Jane Austen; Kimberly GG

Fluffy, the thread tends to flow with whatever’s in the news re: this case on any given day. The most recent news all had to do with Larry’s custody case and Virgie’s legal actions concerning DL, whatever they may be. I think that’s mainly why it’s seemed to some that “Virgie bashers” are more vocal.
Now, I don’t hate Virgie but I’m not overly fond of her and my feelings and opinions thus far are based only on her actions and words since day one. She hasn’t helped herself too much in the court of public opinion lately. Stern hasn’t said that much about her publicly and I began forming my own opinions of her actions well before, at any rate. I’m sure she is neither a horrific human being or the most wonderful mother/grandmother. She’s something in between(like most people) and since we don’t know her and still lack a great deal of info, I don’t yet know where I’d place her on the scale of “goodness—badness.”
I know your feelings toward Stern and you are entitled to them. Let others who don’t share your feelings about Virgie have the same respect you’re granted concerning your strong feelings about Stern. For instance, I’m not willing to call him a psychopath for my own very valid reasons. Sure, I can see how some may look at things he appears to have done or not done and make a layman’s diagnosis. That isn’t good enough for me, and that’s just me. Early on, before you were here, my goal was to remain neutral and factual and fair-minded to all the players. Confirmed facts have been a little hard to come by in this case. I still remain in “wait and see” mode.


10,664 posted on 05/04/2007 11:22:15 PM PDT by tabor
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To: fluffytoo

Excellent post, Fluffytoo!!!! I too am having a difficult time with the Virgie bashing. I can not understand why anyone would not feel compassion for Virgie.

As you stated so well, Virgie has lost so much, in such a short period of time. I’m amazed at the strenght she has shown, inspite of much adversity. I continue to admire her greatly.

Godspeed to Virgie as she fights against HKS and his diabolical schemes.


10,762 posted on 05/06/2007 12:56:51 AM PDT by Pepper777
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