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Richard Chamberlain's Gay and Once Did Not Like Himself
ArriveNet ^ | July 7, 2007 | J. Grant Swank, Jr.

Posted on 07/06/2007 8:32:39 PM PDT by tnarg

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To: tnarg

How are transvestites born wanting to wear the clothes of the other sex? We are born naked. Clothing is dictated by fashion and culture.

There may be a desire to dress like a girl but it doesn’t come from deep inside BEING part girl. It is a fetish. And for some like Edward D. Wood Jr., the director and porno novel writer, it didn’t even spring from being swishy. He was a heterosexual male.


61 posted on 07/07/2007 8:34:17 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: weegee

interesting but have no clue as to how to answer you with your q’s.


62 posted on 07/07/2007 8:38:37 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: tnarg
The reason I pointed out verse 11 (that change is possible) was because of your comment in the article:
I side with those who conclude that a person is born homosexual.
As stated in post 49, I think it's complicated.

You said change is rare... but from everything I've read the rate of change is increasing. Word is getting out that change is possible as more people read the stories of former homosexuals.

We all struggle with sin, indeed. One of my main concerns is helping to prevent our most precious resource, our children, from struggling with the sin of homosexuality. What's happening in our culture today is sad, as children continue to be bombarded with everything under the sun at too early an age. It really grieves my spirit.

63 posted on 07/07/2007 8:40:42 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

thank you


64 posted on 07/07/2007 8:41:11 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: scripter

yes, i grieve with you per your note.

i do believe persons are born homosexual per ‘the fall’ as set forth in my post.

but even that can be changed by the grace of the divine, however, i believe same to be a rare situation.

we are all tattered in one way or another due to ‘the fall’ but grace has found us and made that which was once a cast off a forgiven soul.


65 posted on 07/07/2007 8:43:09 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: Jaysun

“This is unadulterated nonsense. The original sin in the garden didn’t make future sins excusable. There’s nothing Biblical behind the assertion that people are born gay. The Bible repeatedly denounces homosexuality.”

Gay “logic” at it’s worst.


66 posted on 07/07/2007 8:58:51 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh

the post does not support ‘gay logic.’


67 posted on 07/07/2007 9:18:52 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: tnarg
“i think what we as evangelical, biblical, conservative, committed-to-the-bible-as-divine-revelation believers need to remember is that sexuality is complicated.”

Actually no, it isn’t complicated at all. We, or rather some of us MAKE it complicated. As for homosexuals, it is common sense, and well known, that man was granted free will. The Lord does not drag us kicking and screaming to His will, that is up to us. We can indulge in any number of perversions as human beings with free will. Just because we may envision a fantasy, does not mean we should act on it. THAT is all homosexuality is about.

68 posted on 07/07/2007 9:34:19 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: tnarg

LOL!


69 posted on 07/07/2007 9:35:05 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: tnarg

Is your cap key broken? ;)


70 posted on 07/07/2007 9:35:55 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: tnarg

LOL!

“Back to the debate: I side with those who conclude that a person is born homosexual. And that does no disservice to God.”

Gay logic in it’s most twisted form.

No one is born homosexual. It does a diservice to God to state such a lie.


71 posted on 07/07/2007 9:36:51 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: gidget7

o really. i am sure many wrestling with the matter only wish it were that simple.

life is filled with complexities.

the simple gospel of salvation by divine grace is about the only actual issue that can be reduced to such a wonderful, blessed simplicity that even children understand it.


72 posted on 07/07/2007 9:44:15 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: gidget7

o that u had only that to concern u, eh?


73 posted on 07/07/2007 9:44:58 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: nmh

o well, keep the wheel going round and round. in these situations i cordially dismount.

thanks for noting that.


74 posted on 07/07/2007 9:45:52 AM PDT by tnarg
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To: tnarg
Hey free will is in and of itself, complicated, as are a lot of decisions is life, they key is to make the right decisions and the right choices. Do we every time? No, but we do strive to try, or should. And when we make a wrong one, it is wise to realize it, and rectify it. As a Christian I would confess it. But I wouldn’t repeat it, and most certainly not build my life around it and repeat it often!

This issue has been complicated on purpose, and by a very well stratagized plan.

75 posted on 07/07/2007 10:01:17 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: tnarg

Homosexuals are sneaky. Truth is their worst enemy.


76 posted on 07/07/2007 10:15:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Jaysun
Prodding around in feces is a "lifestyle", don't you know? An entire group of people wants to be identified by a perverse sexual act. That's crazy. Can I be identified as "once or twice a week with my wife", or a "happy" for short? Absurd.

I was just checking the web for the "Missionary Style Only Pride Parade".

77 posted on 07/07/2007 10:57:30 AM PDT by agent_delta ( Who needs an iPhone? I still use my Apple Newton.)
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To: agent_delta

good one.


78 posted on 07/07/2007 12:48:12 PM PDT by tnarg
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To: nmh

those who know not christ play games with deceit.

those who know christ wrestle with their urges but don’t join the sneaky parade.


79 posted on 07/07/2007 12:51:51 PM PDT by tnarg
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To: tnarg

I hear ya ...

Right on!


80 posted on 07/07/2007 1:56:14 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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