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PC Magazine Editor Throws in the Towel on Vista
Slashdot ^ | 8/18/2008

Posted on 08/18/2007 6:28:28 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: ari-freedom

That’s just not true. It’s a shame so many hobbyists “try” linux, and then pronounce it not as good as Windows, just because they haven’t taken the time to learn more about it.

Most don’t realize, you didn’t just pick up a mouse and become an everyday user on windows, either. It took most people years of previous versions, including (maybe) some years of DOS experience to get to the point where you are now.

Linux is not ready for the masses, yet. But that does not mean, nor is it an indication, that *.*nix applications are inferior. Just the opposite is true. If you know what you’re doing, and how to do it, they are far superior to nearly any windows OEM app.

Be nice, John Spartan...:O)


81 posted on 08/18/2007 8:25:59 PM PDT by papasmurf (<<<<< Click there to see my dogs! Oh, and I have FRed one liners, too.)
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To: njmaugbill

I don’t understand the Mac people. Base on some great commercial my wife bought a Mac desktop a couple of years ago. It cost much more than a similarly equipped PC and was the most unintuitive computer we have ever tried to use. After a month of frustration we gave up and got rid of it. We lost a bundle getting rid of it, but it was worth every penny as a good lesson learned.


82 posted on 08/18/2007 8:27:16 PM PDT by redangus
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To: sionnsar
Bought my first laptop with Vista on it and haven't had a single problem. Setup a wireless router without a glitch and it automatically detects wi-fi hotspots as I drive.

I see a lot of gripes against Vista but never the details. Am I just lucky or????

BTW, started in '90 with Windows 3.1 and have built every computer except this laptop.

83 posted on 08/18/2007 8:29:03 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: sionnsar

If you know how to modify the registry, and know your protocols, Win98SE can be your BFF.


84 posted on 08/18/2007 8:29:12 PM PDT by papasmurf (<<<<< Click there to see my dogs! Oh, and I have FRed one liners, too.)
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To: narses

Look here for evidence of narses’ spamming habits!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=84362

NARSES IS A SPAMMER!


85 posted on 08/18/2007 8:32:55 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: PogySailor

I don’t know if this will help you, but I had a Belkin Wireless card laying around ( Model# F5D7011-it came free with a switch I bought at a close out at CompUSA (RIP) ), anywho, I stuck it in my Tablet PC running Ubuntu, and it just worked! I was surprised, to say the least.


86 posted on 08/18/2007 8:34:22 PM PDT by papasmurf (<<<<< Click there to see my dogs! Oh, and I have FRed one liners, too.)
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To: kanawa
seeing as I upgraded from Windows 98SE.

If it ain't broke . . . Writing this on an ancient PII 333 W98SE Thinkpad bought at a dot-com auction.

I'm a computer guy and only recently upgraded my main work machine to XP Media Center. The dang thing has crapped out and I've fallen back to my W98SE laptop. The only thing I really miss is Google Earth.

Haven't even seen Vista yet, didn't renew my MS Action Pack yet (best deal ever).

87 posted on 08/18/2007 8:36:00 PM PDT by MontyPythonGumby (retread . . . counting 1, 2, 3 - IQ level of mods - 100, 90, 80 . . .)
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To: sionnsar

BEST bang for the buck, very high quality (even the low end models), and world class support...if you need it...

http://www.sagernotebook.com

You can get XP on any machine they make.


88 posted on 08/18/2007 8:38:24 PM PDT by papasmurf (<<<<< Click there to see my dogs! Oh, and I have FRed one liners, too.)
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To: 11th_VA

I recently purchased a new HP laptop from Best Buy, and I had to special order to machine with XP on it since some of our engineering software won’t run on Vista. I think I paid an extra $50 for the XP machine and had to wait a couple of days for it to be shipped in.


89 posted on 08/18/2007 8:43:00 PM PDT by Radio Free Tuscaloosa (God Bless...America!! - Adm. Jeremiah Denton)
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To: sionnsar

Louderback is a BIG loss in the tech press. HUGE.


90 posted on 08/18/2007 8:43:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: miele man
Well, pray tell, how do you run an update to a program that has not yet been installed?

The Vista Update Tool is a program that runs on your current version of Windows that's supposed to check for any incompatibilities and "gotchas." For the most part, it does work, but I've heard that there are some things that it does miss. But it does warn you about some of the big problems you might run into.

Mark

91 posted on 08/18/2007 8:44:30 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: sionnsar

While running a little net with NetBSD behind BSD routers (fast, distributed computing—AKA “clustered”—CPUs at about 38C, silent slow fans, dust stopped with filters, cheap SATA drive array delivering virtually instantaneously and redundantly with RAIDframe, diskless, fanless workstations with AFS), I can’t relate well to complaints from MS or Linux users. ;-)

Windows servers are good for software testing, if they’re not connected to the Net.

The little network stays up with no problems, no effort other than use (and changing a couple of filters once in a while), and cost next to nothing.

IMO, some consultants for home networks like this are less costly than the hardware and software that most people buy. But client/corporate/academic pride gets in the way, and too many clients give consultants hard times in dishonest efforts to lower fees.

So I’ll write more software for your Windows systems. ;-)


92 posted on 08/18/2007 8:45:21 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: Squantos
"I have smaller / older desktops I used Ubuntu (linux) OS w/ open office."

OpenOffice is nice since 2.0, isn't it! It's really getting around to businesses and organizations, too.
93 posted on 08/18/2007 8:48:20 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: Born to Conserve; narses
NARSES IS A SPAMMER!

You've been here for 6 years and don't know what a ping list is? The people whom Narses pings have ASKED to get on his list, and as can be seen by looking at the extended version of your search, whomevver he pings can remove themselves from the list easily.

94 posted on 08/18/2007 8:57:48 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: ken21

Before reinstalling XP, did you “wipe” the disk first, or just install XP over the existing system.

If sounds as if you didn’t even reformat the drive, which normally STILL isn’t enough.

I’ve found that if you don’t wipe the partition table and master boot record, you’re looking at trouble down the road, and just deleting the partitions and recreating them isn’t enough.

I’ve got a little debug utility that writes all zeros to the partition table and mbr, effectively wiping the disk (as far as the computer and OS are concerned) and the system thinks you’re installing the OS on a brand new disk.

F 200 L200 0
A 100
MOV AX,301
MOV BX,200
MOV CX,1
MOV DX,0080
INT 13
INT 3
G=100
Q

If you don’t have a bootable DOS disk (MS-DOS 3.3 or later, or a bootable disk made with Windows 9x) with the debug.com utility, you can get “Kill Disk” which WILL completely wipe your disk, at http://www.killdisk.com. They’ve got both a commercial version, which will clean your disk to DOD standards, as well as a free version that you can download that will more than do the job for you.

Mark


95 posted on 08/18/2007 8:58:49 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: ovrtaxt

The problem with XP, which I have, as opposed to Vista is it will only allow 2.75GB of RAM to be recognized. Vista will allow a lot more.

However, if you are upgrading with Vista you need to load it with only 2GB first and make sure it works correctly. Then install the remainder of the RAM and it will recognize it all.

I have 4GB of RAM in my XP system in order to upgrade to Vista at some future date, but it doesn’t recognize all of it. Also, the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor says my printer would not be compatible so I’d have to buy a new one.


96 posted on 08/18/2007 8:59:43 PM PDT by Duke Phelan (Save the cheerleader, save the world.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Hadn’t you considered, that he’s using another OS called Linix?


97 posted on 08/18/2007 9:01:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Not really.

Most likely, it is simply the case that he doesn't know enough about Linux to even spell it.

98 posted on 08/18/2007 9:06:41 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens steal in fear of pollution, The Reds in fear of greed; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: 11th_VA
Alot of new laptops don't support XP - I'm in the market for a new laptop now, and I want it with XP.

Your best bet is to go with "business class" systems, as many businesses are behind on rolling out OS upgrades. Sorry, I don't know the class of laptops, but in the Dell desktop world, you've got a better chance of getting XP preinstalled (or supported hardware) in the Optiplex line (which is their business class), rather than the Dimension line (which is their consumer line).

Heck, in the company I work for, the standard desktop OS is still Windows 2000 Professional.

Mark

99 posted on 08/18/2007 9:09:20 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: MarkL
This sounds to me like a misdiagnosis. I am willing to believe that something went wrong, and that after zapping the partition table and mbr, things went better. But I doubt that that step was the essential step.
100 posted on 08/18/2007 9:09:44 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens steal in fear of pollution, The Reds in fear of greed; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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