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Trapped by the mortgage meltdown
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/13/real_estate/mortgage_meltdown.moneymag/index.htm?postversion=2007091 ^ | 9-14-07 | Les Christie

Posted on 09/14/2007 5:37:16 AM PDT by Hydroshock

NEW YORK (Money Magazine) -- Whether you're a home seller, owner or buyer, by this point you've got to be feeling a little rattled. The bad news about the housing market seems never ending: Foreclosures have more than doubled over the past year.

Sales of existing homes are off 11 percent from this time last year. At that rate, it will take at least nine months to work off the inventory of unsold homes. And median home prices in July (the most recent figure available) dropped for the 12th month in a row.

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Worse yet, all that happened before problems in subprime lending expanded throughout the mortgage market and beyond, creating what's popularly being referred to as the credit crunch.

While it's too soon to see the impact reflected in the numbers, the immediate future is clear: As lenders tighten their borrowing standards, fewer people will qualify for mortgages.

Fewer qualified buyers can only mean that housing prices will slump further. Worst of all, economists don't see much chance for a turnaround until mid- 2008 and possibly into 2009.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


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To: Hydroshock

Right you are, Hydro! If you can’t afford it, you shouldn’t try to buy it. That’s an old, but good lesson; and sometimes the only way to learn it is the hard way.


61 posted on 09/14/2007 6:45:07 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

There’s a simple reason I like the suburbs.

Living in the city=living with crime, liberals, freaks, gays, dirt, traffic and noise.

Living in the country=driving to the city to work unless you like living on minimum wage...

I know you’re more a fan of city living but that’s a minority of conservatives.


62 posted on 09/14/2007 6:46:16 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: Hydroshock
Whether you're a home seller, owner or buyer, by this point you've got to be feeling a little rattled.

Why? I'm a home owner and I am not rattled. I don't plan on selling my house ever, so why should I care about the current little blip in the market? I hate broad generalizations.

63 posted on 09/14/2007 6:46:54 AM PDT by weaponeer
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To: DCPatriot

Are you saying that equity WILL continue to bring profits or not? Not sure I understand your post.


64 posted on 09/14/2007 6:48:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: RexBeach
I bought my beautiful little townhouse in Alexandria, VA in 1989. It went down in value for the next seven years before the prices began turning around in 1997 or so.

The debt hangover that we have today is unprecedented at least five times worse than 1989.

This time it will take at least 15 years to unwind the excesses.

Unless the Fed hyperinflates us out of our debts.


BUMP

65 posted on 09/14/2007 6:48:22 AM PDT by capitalist229 (ANDS)
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To: capitalist229

Anything is possible.


66 posted on 09/14/2007 6:50:51 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Antique Gal
I can see you haven’t been to the grocery store lately

Hmm... I was in the grocery store not more than 15 minutes ago.

What do you mean?

- John

67 posted on 09/14/2007 6:51:09 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: RockinRight

My house is almost 6 years old and was bought before the boom and while its value is far less than it was during the height of the boom, it is still valued far in excess of what I paid and I don’t owe much on it either.

Two of my 4 kids have now been able to buy homes at bargain prices. One will soon and the oldest is stuck in a bad loan on an existing mortgage. 3 out of 4 ain’t bad.


68 posted on 09/14/2007 6:51:24 AM PDT by umgud
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To: capitalist229

Hangovers serve a purpose. They tell us that we did something stupid.

Do you want the Fed to hyperinflate us out of our debts?


69 posted on 09/14/2007 6:51:42 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: listenhillary

No, people who hope for huge crashes in the market, and millions of people losing their homes, so they can become the speculators that right now they’re cursing and bitching about.


70 posted on 09/14/2007 6:52:21 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: RexBeach

I ask because usually a straight 20% suffices.


71 posted on 09/14/2007 6:53:25 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: RockinRight

Well, the way to be rid of speculators would be to have government assigned housing.

Better solutions welcomed.


72 posted on 09/14/2007 6:54:51 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: RockinRight

I just bought a house near Atlanta. I don’t make an insane amount of money.


73 posted on 09/14/2007 6:55:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Fairview

“Rex, I bought my house in 1991, not far away from Alexandria. Even if it loses three quarters of its value, if I sold it I’d still make a killing relative to what I could have made in the stock market or any other investment instrument over those years.”

The key here is selling it - the markets across the country are overbuilt and have massive amounts of inventory that’s not selling. That’s why this is happening, why foreclosures are growing - nobody can sell, because nobody is buying. Take a look in your area, and see how long houses are sitting on the market - the appraisal you’re basing your “killing” on may not be accurate anymore.

If you can afford your mortgage, and have a fixed loan, more power to you, you’ll be fine (except having your purchasing power diminish with a recession). If you have to sell, for any reason...you may be in for a surprise.


74 posted on 09/14/2007 6:56:38 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: ctdonath2
Unless you just started working, or didn’t save, you can get a suitable home within your cash range

Not in southern Connecticut, unless you're willing to live in the worst part of the urban ghettos....

- John

75 posted on 09/14/2007 6:57:13 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: ctdonath2

Prices in Atlanta are still pretty reasonable.


76 posted on 09/14/2007 7:00:59 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: Hydroshock

“I know they do not, that is why I ahve been warning of this train wreck for over a year.”

I have too - I gave it up as a pointless hobby, and I refuse to show any compassion to people who made fun of me or were rude to me when I DARED question the housing market. They made their bed, they can now lie in it, and I’ll be damned if they pass some kind of bailout on my dime.

I’m stocked up on popcorn, gonna get every ounce of entertainment value out of watching American’s greed and the shady doings of the banking and and real estate and mortgage industry tank our country into one hell of a recession. It’s too late late to change the course of this iceberg, might as well enjoy the show.

C’mon, all you mortgage brokers and real estate agents who barge into these threads and throw their attitude around, let’s get some more “NAH NAH NAH I CANT HEAR YOU” while you stick your fingers in your ears, and try to sell people 800K houses that are worth 200k. Get some more blood money while there are still a few greater fools out there. C’mon, one more round of “real estate only goes up!” “You can just refinance later when the rates reset!” “They’re not making any more land!” and “rent is throwing money away!” for old time’s sake. It’s your party, get your butts on the dance floor and WORK IT! We’re paying for it, after all.

Now, you’ll excuse me, I have to go to work now (where I havent had a raise in 4 years), gotta get gas (which is rising in price), and make some cash to pay my rent, which is half of what i’d be throwing away in property tax, insurance, and upkeep on an overpriced shitbox McMansion you real estate idiots and mortgage vultures were trying to fob off on me for the last 4 years.

Bitter? You BETCHA.


77 posted on 09/14/2007 7:09:24 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: Larry Lucido

Why would you ask that?


78 posted on 09/14/2007 7:11:18 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Sam's Army

I heard a local store was now accepting Peso’s. Maybe thats where all the money is going?


79 posted on 09/14/2007 7:13:09 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: ByDesign

I know you feelings all to well.


80 posted on 09/14/2007 7:16:49 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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