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To: blueplum

Nope, ‘twasn’t I. I had to throw in the towel on the Hogans/Harts/Smiths early on. I had a ton of the info gathered, but just didn’t want to do what I would have had to do to put it all together.

I don’t have any paid databases anymore, so whatever the pro genealogists came up with, I had to go with - unless I saw some mistakes - which I did - every single one of them has made them.

I am at a great handicap because this puter doesn’t play videos and I don’t have cable - but only because people have seen a lot of interviews that weren’t ever transcribed and with people whose names were never revealed. ANS *herself* isn’t *that* important to me, anyway, in the big scheme of things. She was the victim, not the perp.

It’s all the other “secret” or “invisible” connections that interest me more.

Anyway, I didn’t find that Celeria person, but leave it to someone trying to find “dirt” on Virgie to do so (with paid databases and a PI, no less). I don’t really go along with that. I certainly can’t look down my nose at her, by any stretch of the imagination - she’s much better off than I am - but there are also people you run across in life that just don’t need any more putting down by anyone, so I don’t really want to add to it.

ANS is a different matter, as are most of the rest of the cast of characters.


2,160 posted on 10/30/2007 9:08:04 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

ok rt - thanks for telling me - I’d guess I’d have to give ‘props’ to that website, then, for finding the information, if there’s such a thing as positively acknowledging such truely disturbing efforts towards the public destruction and humiliation of the victims family.

That all was done with the knowledge and encouragement, apparently, of Bonnie Stern, and, by proxy, Howard, and his mother, HA! (should the quoted stories be true), well, it is just behavior simply incomprehensible to a non-criminal mind. It is notable the two sites are feuding, not over the ‘clown redux’ video implications, but over who’s got more favor with howard!

The only question to ask, I guess, is, will the ‘slighted’ website decide to tell all, or stay loyal to the manipulations of Howard out of some distorted sense of loyalty or ownership?


2,165 posted on 10/30/2007 10:11:11 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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