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Animals Torn To Pieces By Lions In Front Of Baying Crowds...
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | January 5, 2008 | By Danny Penman

Posted on 01/05/2008 1:15:56 PM PST by JACKRUSSELL

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To: Varda
LOUDER: If the Chinese had the power perhaps they would change these cruel practices. We have the power and we don’t.
101 posted on 01/05/2008 5:30:01 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
"In China, if you love animals you want to kill yourself every day out of despair."

As nutty as the Chinese.
102 posted on 01/05/2008 5:33:17 PM PST by aruanan
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To: TigersEye
Sorry, I don't see it that way and I was referring to our young ones.

Eldest grandson raises animals for 4-H. He knows exactly what is going to happen to them when the show is over.

103 posted on 01/05/2008 5:33:29 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: TigersEye

Sure sounds that way to me, awful lot of judging going on.


104 posted on 01/05/2008 5:34:44 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: Ransomed

In the United States alone about 1 billion birds are dangled before being killed EVERY MONTH.

That’s about 5 MILLION each working day.

The Chinese zoos have nothing on us.


105 posted on 01/05/2008 5:36:16 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: SouthTexas
Sorry, I don't see it that way and I was referring to our young ones.

Your young ones need to learn how lions hunt? Are they feral? ;^)

Eldest grandson raises animals for 4-H. He knows exactly what is going to happen to them when the show is over.

Good. I know what will happen to them too and how and why. They will be killed as humanely as possible not ripped apart alive.

106 posted on 01/05/2008 5:49:47 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: SouthTexas
Sure sounds that way to me, awful lot of judging going on.

Not from me you don't.

I see an awful lot of jumping to conclusions going on.

107 posted on 01/05/2008 5:51:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: cripplecreek

Kinda’ looked like the national Geographic Channel


108 posted on 01/05/2008 5:51:47 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Balding_Eagle

What makes you think I have a problem with that? I’ve worked in chicken houses, and never shed a tear for those dumb birds. I don’t think dangling chickens for jollies is a good way to treat those dumb birds. What do you think of chucking coins at turtle heads for luck and amusement?

Freegards


109 posted on 01/05/2008 6:00:06 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: TigersEye
Sometimes I wonder about the kids, but the grandkids are all mellowing a bit.;)

Yes, I do think they need to learn this, it is part of the realities of the wild. A kid in California might be alive if he had learned just how powerful a tiger can be.

Don't get me wrong here, I do not support the Chinese in any form or fashion, but there is a whole host of things we can bash them on and this really isn't one of them.

110 posted on 01/05/2008 6:04:18 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: Ransomed

Err, did you say you particpated in those dangling chickens?

Chuckle.

Hmm.....about those turtles. I really don’t know how they’re slaughterd, but I’ve have to admit that bouncing nickles off their heads probably isn’t part of it.

Got me on that one.


111 posted on 01/05/2008 6:14:53 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: SouthTexas

I agree, at worst this is just crude.

However, down the road, our kids are going to be at the business negotiating table the those kids.

Who is going to be able to drive the hardest bargain? The kids raise by a bunch of pansy’s, or the kids who are raised understanding real life?


112 posted on 01/05/2008 6:19:47 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Good point. We seem to already have a segment of the population that thinks you can make nice with jihadis and everything will be all right.

I used to have a pet turtle, tortoise actually. When I traveled, he rode on the front seat, right next to the .357. Don't think I ever bounced a nickel off of his head though.

113 posted on 01/05/2008 6:26:43 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: SouthTexas

Perhaps you should take in again the opening statements of the article, up to this key sentence:

‘”Oohs” and “aahs” filled the air as the children watched the goat being ripped limb from limb. Some started to clap silently with a look of wonder in their eyes.’

Nice, huh?


114 posted on 01/05/2008 6:27:32 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: SouthTexas
I agree 100% that the world, much less China, has far greater things to worry about. I have thought about the reason it's so hard to keep priorities straight and the best answer I come up with is that the horrors of life are so many and so unrelenting. It's like trying to shovel the sidewalk in an avalanche.

I was only trying to make some reasonable discernments between conscious decisions that humans have the power to make and the order in nature which is under no conscious control. Man should certainly be aware of the nature of the wild and rationally put it in its own context. But when man makes choices he shouldn't use the nature of the wild as an excuse for his actions. But I don't mean to imply that man is entirely free of nature and able to act in some completely pure manner. We have to eat, build shelters and defend our families. At our very best we can't do those things without taking life and causing others to suffer both man and beast. But we don't have to make a Roman Circus out of it to live and enjoy life. 4H is nothing like that I think you would agree.

Maybe you and the grandkids can double team that generation in the middle. ; )

115 posted on 01/05/2008 6:28:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

They’ve already been brainwashed. They’re clapping at the spectacle.

Too late for “if they had the power”. They don’t care anymore.


116 posted on 01/05/2008 6:28:25 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Domandred
This was in China? How long till they start using Christians?

After Hillary's coronation.

117 posted on 01/05/2008 6:30:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ZULU

Some people simply must bring abortion into EVERY discussion, it seems.

I find it so tiresome.


118 posted on 01/05/2008 6:30:53 PM PST by Constitution Day (Get over yourselves!)
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To: Duchess47

I initially got sick to my stomach after reading this, as I am very empathetic. And, I just finished watching Black Hawk Down, so I am in a very pessimistic mood, but then after reading your post, I wondered why God would allow us to go on living. Maybe He is waiting for us do enlighten them. But then again, ask those who have rooster fights and dog fights here in the US, if they need enlightening. No wonder the dead standing before God’s throne ask Him, “How long?”


119 posted on 01/05/2008 6:37:32 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Balding_Eagle

FYI Chinese coins are surprisingly light, much lighter than nickels due to a different metal content. The pennies are made out of aluminum and higher denomination coins are brass. As I understand it, you aren’t supposed to throw coins at turtle’s heads, but rather throw and balance them on their shells. It’s considered good luck, like throwing coins in a pond.

Consider for a minute the poultry industry. Millions of chickens are kept immobile in tiny pens their entire lives and force fed and injected with a slew of anti-biotics and drug cocktails and then non-chalantly slaughtered via mechanized butchering devices that can probably decapitate hundreds of birds a minute. Not exactly club med but some people seem to get their panties in a wad because someone threw a live chicken in a lion pen and they consider that cruel. It’s probably not very nice to tease the poor lions so before feeding them, but to whine about it is pretty ridiculous. It’s generally true that Americans are incredibly hypocritical about what they eat, preferring their food to generally not resemble food at all, or at least to not resemble what it came from.


120 posted on 01/05/2008 6:38:31 PM PST by cmdjing
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