Posted on 01/05/2008 1:15:56 PM PST by JACKRUSSELL
On the nature shows, sometimes I root for the prey, sometimes I root for the predator. Depends on what frame of mind I’m in and it’s all still reality.
The goat thing don’t seem quite so bad now. Does it?
Yes, the "goat thing" still sounds horribly bad.
Cruelty to animals is nothing short of horrifying whether abortions or other cruel atrocities happen or not.
it’s actually one of the few times I’ve ever brought abortion into the discussion.
I’d been on a local thread trying to educate some very disgruntled Republicans who were leaning Obama merely because they hadn’t taken the time to educate themselves on his positions.
After explaining to them, in far less detail than I did on this thread it just PISSES ME OFF that ANYONE can think that partial birth abortion is ever necessary OR ACCEPTABLE.
But I’m not gonna get my shorts in a wad over throwing goats to lions and act like my concern is superior when we allow far more barbaric actions right here in this country.
Good one, sort of lost on those of us down here though. :)
You're right, 4-H is not about mistreatment of animals. The animals are all raised for show and eventually will be killed. There's a very fine line between becoming too attached to your lunch too. They are all still killed in the end and I think it's splitting hairs on the method. If you've never seen it, try and catch one of the nature shows where the baboons are stalking monkeys (or maybe not if it really bothers you). They eat their prey alive.
Steadily working on the tagteam and trying to persuade as many as we can along the way! :)
Animals kill other animals.
Animals eat other animals. What do they feed carnivorous animals at the zoo? .....other animals
When I see animals intentionally aborting their young, I may see the equivalence.
The entertainment factor in this story is pretty much the only difference. American zoos don’t let the kiddies see the handlers feed live fluffy bunnies and other assorted tidbits to the inhabitants of the zoo
I’ve worked in chicken houses, not plants, but I’ve been in them (don’t eat the potted meat). I didn’t see any chickens getting dangled “for jollies”... I could care less if the lions were fed live chickens. I don’t dig the way the chickens are dangled “for jollies”. Teasing both lions and chickens in order to prolong bloodsport is wrong. What do you think of how the bear cages were described?
Freegards
I guess my metaphor came straight out my perch here in the CO Rockies. Which the wind almost blew me out of last night. I think it was the worst I've ever heard in 22 years here. Any harder than that and I'll be posting from Kansas.
I agree. This is horrendous. I oppose abortion. I support the Second Amendment. But, as you point out, NONE of that is relevant to the obscene primitive spectacle these savages present to the world:
Killing female babies
Selling body organs of dissidents
Peddling poisoned toys, food and drugs
Using our export dollars and technology to build up a formidable military machine threatening US.
We should cut off all trade with these savages and urge other free world countries to do so also.
Like some Commie once said: Capitalism contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction - in this case myopic corporate greed.
From what I've seen coming into the west coast, you better batten down your hatches! There's more on the way!
Let it be snow not wind. As for Bear; the man needs some cooking lessons and a small container of salt wouldn’t weigh him down too much either. ha
Don't know if salt would help a bug. LOL
I never said I was pro-abortion. I am not, so please don't put words in my mouth. I just find it somewhat annoying whenever someone brings up abortion on a thread that has nothing to do with abortion. There are plenty of abortion threads on FR, where those who feel strongly about the issue can discuss it to their hearts' content. Why do we have to discuss abortion on almost every other thread, too?
Ping to post 132. I’m glad I’m not alone.
1st of all, at least no children are present to watch them and “cheer them on”.
2nd of all, your line of reasoning seems to fit the way of the “justice system” these days - murder is so much worse than mere burglary, the hell with pursuing the “mere property-crime” miscreants. Your property, we don’t care. Only if you’re actually killed might we pursue the case.
That is not the way to pursue crime, by simply deciding which is the worst, and the hell with the rest.
I’d view this in absolutist terms, rather than the relativistic terms you’re espoousing.
I never thought you were, Huntress. please see my post #123. On a local blog, merely posting NARALs website and pointing out Hillary and Obama’s 100% rating, I was accused of obsessing over vaginas.
Sorry if my passion spilled over here.
Sounds like they are trying to desensitize the children. If seeing a poor helpless animal being ripped to shreds doesn’t bother them, then nothing will.
I’ll re read that tomorrow.
Somewhere between my public edumacation and Admiral Nelsons guidance....ya really lost me there, dude.
You’re using relativism. Simple as that. Your kind of posts imply nothing is ever as important as abortion (indeed), and then that it is the ONLY thing. “Well, it’s -not as bad- as THIS” - so we’ll become numb to the “lesser” things. Even if they are also “bad” on the absolutist scale.
You’re dismissing bad things because they aren’t “the worst”.
Which is really bad, actually, because then someday, that “singular bad thing” won’t be bad to anyone anymore, because your relativism has dumbed down everything - abortion with it. Nothing will any longer be “bad”.
Thank you. “Desensitization” is the word.
I think it’s horrible that people become so nonchalant about something like this. They have children clapping and exclaiming over this “spectacle”?
That’s sicker than people cheering and clapping over a murderous thug getting his due.
It’s not a theater production. It’s just something that has to be done.
But I draw the line at late-term.
Nothing will any longer be “bad”.
Aren't we getting kinda close to that now?
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