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Interesting. Is Sun trying to compete with Oracle? How do they plant to get the $1 billion back on an open source product?
1 posted on 01/16/2008 7:16:07 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Didn’t see this one coming. OTOH, I think the future is in open source, so this makes sense. Can they compete with the Oracle monster? Time will tell.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 7:21:53 AM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


3 posted on 01/16/2008 7:22:37 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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Yea spending $1 Billion on something that has been for all intents and purposes free doesn’t sound like a good investment to me.

Course how much did YouTube go for....

Hopefully they’ll keep it free for most users.


4 posted on 01/16/2008 7:24:04 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Fractal Trader

Sales of services, subscriptions, and training


5 posted on 01/16/2008 7:24:27 AM PST by pikachu (Be alert -- we need more lerts!)
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How do they plan to get the $1 billion back on an open source product?

Make it capable enough and complicated enough that there is a market for expert consultants and for add-ons. There's also the hardware tie-in for complete systems.

6 posted on 01/16/2008 7:24:56 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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You make money on open source products by SELLING THEM, just like closed source.

And Just like Closed Source Software the real money is in Support Contracts not software licenses.

Companies make Money on OpenSource software all the time.
Apple is at the top tier for consumer open source sales.
Then IBM and Redhat make a boat load of $$$$ in the Business world on OpenSource Software.

You should also note, that even Oracle lets you download and use their database for FREE, you just pay out the $$$$ for support.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 7:25:47 AM PST by viper592
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Wow, this affects me bigtime. I’m a heavy duty Mysql user, have even written a replication utility for Mysql. $1 Billion, Holy cow! Mysql is actually the biggest database system out there, it crept up on Oracle and SQLServer.


9 posted on 01/16/2008 7:26:56 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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MySql makes a great product, Sun is a great company. Seems like a match made in Heaven. MySql has a free community database, suitable for single users or for development. There commercial database is not free, technical services is not free either.
10 posted on 01/16/2008 7:27:34 AM PST by jpsb
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I assume it would be the same way Novell is trying to cash in on Suse: develop it as a base for its business products and get free development from the community. It gives them an in-road into users of MySQL.

We’ll see if it works. I think there is a lot of potential for open source software that simply has not been explored. It’s a “new” paradigm (new in that some people are just now discovering it even though it’s been around about as long as commercial software).


11 posted on 01/16/2008 7:30:10 AM PST by cizinec
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MySQL’s major revenue stream comes from the top cell phone carriers premium support contracts. MySQL is optimized for mega tranactions per second. That’s how they keep track of each active cellphone’s IMEI as it moves from one cell to another. The software is free but MySQL responds to its big clients’ needs first.


15 posted on 01/16/2008 7:37:34 AM PST by Procyon (the lamps are going out all over Europe; we shall not see them lit again in our lifetime.)
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This is big!


16 posted on 01/16/2008 7:38:18 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain Sucks!)
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22 posted on 01/16/2008 8:11:32 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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How do they plant to get the $1 billion back on an open source product?

It's dual-license with free and paid versions. Use it at home, run a web server, etc., and it's free, but with the conditions of the GPL. But you can pay for it and not have to worry about the derivative work provisions of the GPL when bundling it with your software. Then there's also the enterprise support.

26 posted on 01/17/2008 5:51:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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Aww crap there goes a perfectly good mid tier database... Sun will bury this thing under so much Java Ill have to get my postgre books out..


27 posted on 01/17/2008 7:04:18 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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