Watch tonight to get a sneak peek at this Thursday's premiere episode of Lost!
Posted on 01/30/2008 12:53:40 PM PST by Lucky9teen
LOST RETURNS TONIGHT!!!
Through the Looking Glass (Season 3 Finale Episode)
Wed Jan 30 10/9c
Special High Definition enhanced episode with on-screen facts (clues) and back story. Jack and his fellow castaways begin their efforts to make contact with Naomi's rescue ship.
Lost: Past, Present & Future
Thu Jan 31 9/8c
This episode explores the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating - in anticipation of the fourth season premiere episode. The special will take an in-depth look at the mysteries of both the island and its inhabitants and recap the secrets that have been revealed, as well as those that remain unanswered.
The Beginning of the End
Thu Jan 31 10/9c
Episode Centric: Hurley
Feeling that their rescue is close at hand, the survivors don't know whether to believe Charlie's final message that the people claiming to liberate them are not who they seem to be. The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 70-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets...
Guest List
Guest starring are Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Sam Anderson as Bernard, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Blake Bashoff as Karl, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, Michael Cudlitz as Mike Walton, Lance Reddick as Matthew Abbadon, Grisel Toledo as orderly, Steven Neumeier as Lewis, Billy Ray Gallion as Randy, Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday and John Terry as Christian Shephard.
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Is it just me, or is there an obscene number of commercials? I can’t wait for the DVD to see the “real”-length edition.
It did seem like the commercials were flowing fast and hard..Good episode though..I like how it is cut up half “present”, half how they got to the present. I’m curious about the Oceanic 6. My bet? Six that are off the island are keeping their mouths shut about those that stayed behind; almost taking up teh “others” role in protecting the island (kinda odd, in essence, they “become” the others)
Now, on to the Season Premiere...
<-- Highlight to avoid spoilers --> Hurley said a few times that he was one of the Oceanic 6. This leads me to believe there is still a lot to happen on the island before they are rescued, and that only 6 are rescued.
In the 'flash forwards' we see Hurley, Jack, and Kate. Have we seen anyone else (not including dead Charlie of course)?? Any speculation on the other 3? Or could Oceanic 6 perhaps mean something else?
We see that the groups splits up into two. Hurley is with one group, and Jack and Kate are with another. So it's not that one group is rescued and the other is not.
<-- Finish Highlight -->
It's going to be a really good season. It started out great!
Guess I didnt need to hide my comments. Oh well.
I guess it could be that only 6 decided to leave the island and they are keeping quiet about it. So the real world calls them the Oceanic 6 thinking only 6 survived.
This season is probably going to have a lot of “present” scenes mixed in with the island scenes. I think there is still a lot to be told about what leads up to the eventual rescue of the 6.
The Lost Report - I get from a poster on the ABC Lost forum:
My Serious, Logical Thoughts on The Beginning of the End
TITLE
Refers to a comment made by Ben in Through the Looking Glass that if Jack made the call that it would be the beginning of the end.
FRUIT TEASE
The opening scene contains no eyes! Instead we see a neat arrangement of melons. We hear birds and in the background it looks like the ocean. This is to make you think that this is the island, but then the melons are blown apart by a vintage Camero. We are in Los Angeles. The truck behind the melons contains the ocean scene, and the truck reads Los Angeles organic produce.
MY FATHER THE CAR
At the beginning of the show you see Hurley driving alone in a vintage seventies Camero. This car has been shown before. Hurley and his dad were working on the car shortly before his father left him when he was a boy. Because the car is a rare classic, Jack immediately recognizes it and knows who is driving it. That is why you hear him curse when he sees it on TV. No mention is made of the money of Hurley.
THE SECRET (not the one in the book)
When Hurley is asked by the cop if he knows Ana Lucia he says no. He cannot say he knows Ana Lucia because as far as the world is concerned there were only six survivors, and everybody else died in the plane crash. The rest of the survivors are still on the island. The mysterious Matthew Abaddon probably represents a group of people interested in the island and is not from Oceanic. Why would an airline try to give an upgrade to a man in a mental institution? Yes, if he was suing them it might be a way to soften him up, but I do not think so. Matthew asks Hurley if they are alive meaning the people still on the island. It all goes back to when Naomi crashed on the island and said that flight 815 was at the bottom of the ocean.
How is it that the plane is on the bottom on the ocean, but also crashed on the island? The only answer is cover up. Nefarious and powerful people outside the island know that flight 815 crashed on the island and somehow concocted a gigantic scheme to make it look like the plane really crashed and went to the bottom of the ocean. Initially they said there were no survivors. The six people rescued might have thrown a wrench into their plans, but the six made a deal with them to keep quiet about them and what they are doing and go along with their cover story that everyone else was killed in the initial plane crash. In return, these six people were rescued. Evidence for this theory comes from the fact that Hurley denies ever meeting Ana Lucia. Hurley cannot tell he met her because the cover story is that she and everyone else besides the Oceanic six died in the crash. It also would explain why when Jack comes to see Hurley in the mental institution it was to see if Hurley was going to go nuts and tell their secret.
Hurley sees a dead Charlie talking to him. Was Charlie really there or was it in the mind of Hurley? If it was all in his mind then how did the mental patient see him? You might think that it is then proven that the apparition of Charlie was physically there unless you consider that both the mental patient and Charlie were in the mind of Hurley. This is not the first person to appear to Hurley who was not really there. Remember Dave? This appearance mimics the ones we have seen on the island such as the father of Jack, Walt, the brother of Eko and others. By the way, the mental patient looked like one of the stars of the TV show Alias Kevin Weisman.
SURE IS COLD THERE
Why is Hurley drawing an igloo and a man dressed in a heavy coat? Seems similar to the two guys who apparently work for Penny Widmore who detected the electromagnetic activity from the hatch on the island. We saw these men in the season two finale. These two men were also in a cold place like the arctic.
GO WEST YOUNG MAN (to the island)
Although while visiting Hurley Jack says they will never go back to the island we know that later on he will very much want to go back. The flashforward sequence in the episode Through the Looking Glass reveals a bearded Jack yelling we have to go baaaack. Why the turnaround? We get a peek at the reason when Hurley implies that the island will do everything it can to get them back. We know Hurley has seen dead Charlie show up and ask him to help the people remaining on the island. Soon Jack will also start to see dead people like Charlie who will try to convince him to return to the island. Maybe he will also see Boone. He may also see others. His father? Ana Lucia? That might explain his comments about his father in Through the Looking Glass. Whatever the reason, Jack will turn to medication for help. That is why we see him pill popping in Through the Looking Glass. By that time, Jack has seen his share of ghosts who appear to teach him the true meaning of Christmas. Notice also that Hurley is on medication in this episode and happily takes down a pill. While being in police custody Hurley sees Charlie swim up to a two way mirror underwater and break the glass. Water then comes gushing in. Yes, that was Charlie swimming up to the mirror. Yes, Hurley gladly returns to the mental institution and his meds. We can only imagine what horrors Jack will see. Look for these in future episodes.
HOUSE(not the doctor)
When Hurley spies through the window of the house, a careful examination shows that there are two people in the house. One in a rocking chair and one who comes up to the window. Who owns the eye that comes up to the window to shock Hurley? I thought Jacob was alone in that house of his. We know Locke has a special connection with Jacob because he heard him speak. Was Locke also inside the house then? Locke did suddenly appear to Hurley right after this incident, and we did see the door to the house open. That still does not explain how the house can appear and disappear.
LIKE A BRIDGE UNDER TROUBLED WATER
At the mental institution, why does Hurley apologize to Jack about going with Locke? At the time, his reasoning seems to make perfect sense. He is going by the warning his friend Charlie gave him about the boat people. Also Hurley says that he believes they made a mistake when they left the island. If that is true then was he not correct in going with Locke? Locke did not want them to be rescued. What is up with this?
OCEANS SIX
Who are the Oceanic six? We have three confirmed members: Hurley, Jack and Kate. There is a hint that Sawyer might be a member when Kate says he will be wondering where I am in the episode Through the Looking Glass. Rose and Bernard may also possibly be members because Rose stays with Jack when the groups separate. But then again Rose is supposed to die if she leaves the island. That would make it the Oceanic Five. If Rose and Bernard stay on the island, which is more likely, then perhaps the final three are Sawyer, Jin and Sun. Sun did remark about wanting to have her baby in a hospital. Perhaps each of the remaining six will also be haunted by visions of the dead. Will the series finale include these six returning to the island to save the day? (The Oceanic six should not be confused with the New York Four. You know who I mean.)
ISLANDS IN THE STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS
The island seems almost like a person. Take the scene in Through the Looking Glass when Walt tells John that he has work to do. That was not Walt but the island talking to John. But is there really something there speaking or is it all in the head of the listener? The monster may be able to transform itself into the appearance of different people. See the Michael Crichton novel Prey in which a swarm of nanobots takes on the appearance of a human. But if that is true then it must be able to fly off the island to LA and impersonate Charlie. That seems less likely.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I GOT SHOT?
How is it that John can function so well after being shot? He talks and walks around with no problem. By now he would have lost a lot of blood. Would he not be dead? Perhaps the island or Jacob healed him in a very short time. After shooting John, Ben says I hope he is able to help you. Meaning Jacob. Is this a slight hint that Jacob does have the power to heal?
AND NOW A WORD FROM OUR OCEANIC
In the premiere of Eli Stone there is an Oceanic commercial in which Oceanic introduces the golden pass which can take you anywhere in the world any time you want to go. Jack mentions having one of these passes in the episode Through the Looking Glass. He says he got the pass from Oceanic. He did not have to pay for it. This may have been part of the court settlement they made with the airline for the crash. The commercial is intermittently interrupted by a man speaking with an Australian accent. He says not to trust them and that they have found Oceanic flight 815. Then you briefly see an Oceanic plane at the bottom of the ocean. This implies that Oceanic is in on the cover up. This is kind of a surprise since it was an accident that the plane crashed on the island. Oceanic did not plan it. Is Oceanic working with the nefarious people Naomi was working for? A deal could have been struck between the two after the fact. Oceanic agrees to the cover story in return for perhaps money or something else of great value. The footage of the plane under the ocean could have been faked. It is easy to do now days. Just look at the movie Titanic. Or how about Beowulf or Final Fantasy the Spirits Within? The technology exists to fake footage of a plane underwater. They could even have gone so far as to plant one of their own planes underwater and then film it or let it be accidentally found and filmed. During the commercial you see the website flyoceanicair.com. For a few seconds this website is replaced by another find815.com. If you go to www.flyoceanicair.com you will see a longer message from the man interrupting the Oceanic commercial. His name is Sam, and his partner Sonja was on the flight. She was a flight attendant. The message seems to have been made shortly after the flight crashed as he mentions that the search is being called off and everyone is presumed dead. This probably would happen after about three weeks of searching I would guess. The website find815.com seems to be a work in progress. It will have an interactive journey for you to search for clues.
SORRY I KILLED YOU DUDE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE BAD GUYS
Hurly says that since everyone thought he was dead that the money would be gone when he got home and he would be free. Sadly though Hurley is imprisoned by the memories of those left behind on the island and the call of the island to return. Like the sirens, the island beckons Hurley to return to help those on the island. This may include helping other Oceanic passengers plus the group known as the others. Look for the others to now become the good guys in their battle against the nefarious boat people.
OTHER OBSERVATIONS
The survivors split up into two groups: those who went with Locke and those who went with Jack. Again it was the Man of science versus the man of faith. Light versus dark. It may also echo the beach people versus cave people argument we saw in season one.
What would be cool is if we saw flashforwards of the people left behind on the island.
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Thanks for posting that! Very interesting information. At fuselage.com, I read that the Oceanic Six are Kate, Jack, Hurley, Jin, Sun, and Sayid. I thought this first episode of the season was great! Not sure if I agree with Locke being “the eye” in Jacob’s house. I saw a screen cap of the eye, and it doesn’t look like Locke.
I think the eye looks like it belongs to the patch guy that blew up the underwater station (and Charlie).
I tried to freeze frame/slow mo the scene inside the cabin and I can’t tell who is sitting in the chair. Some on the other message boards (ABC & Http://darkufo.blogspot.com), have said that it’s Jacks Dad (Christian Shepard) in the chair....
Anyway, I’m jazzed about this new season and it’s lookin’ good.
Thanks for all the music videos, especially Sawyer!
Any ideas on who is in the casket?
I think they eye looks like Jack.
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Have we seen Charlotte yet before this episode? I’ve read about her online - her last name is Lewis and her initials are CS Lewis?
I don’t believe we’ve seen Charlotte yet...but I’ve read Charlotte’s full name is - Charlotte Staples Lewis. CS Lewis anyone? Best known for his Narnia books.
Here is the Lost FAQ for Episode 4.02 by AICN.
What’s It Called?
“Confirmed Dead.”
Who’s Responsible?
Teleplay is credited to Drew Goddard (“Cloverfield”) and Brian K. Vaughn (“Y The Last Man”), who coincidentally or not authored story arcs for the blockbuster “Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season Eight” comic-book series.
What does ABC say?
“The survivors begin to question the intentions of their supposed rescuers when four strangers arrive on the island. Guest starring are Ken Leung as Miles, Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Blake Bashoff as Karl, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, Lance Reddick as Matthew Abaddon, Jill Kuramoto as female anchor, Necar Zadegan as translator, Azure McCall as Mrs. Gardner and Kanayo Chiemelu as African/Tunisian man.”
Does it utilize flashbacks for flashforwards?
Flashbacks.
Who gets the flashbacks?
Five newcomers to Dharma Island: Daniel (the twitchy fellow we met at the end of last episode), Miles, Charlotte, Frank and Naomi. They are all supercool.
Naomi gets a flashback? Is she not dead?
She’s dead; she gets a flashback.
What’s doing with team Shephard?
Coping with Naomi’s suspicious friends.
What’s doing with Team Locke?
Headed for a cabin.
Do we learn who’s been parachuting Dharma groceries onto the island?
Not this week.
Do we learn how the newcomers can find the island when nobody else seems to be able to?
I think we get a pretty good clue.
Does George (the walkie voice played by “Short Circuit” icon Fisher Stevens) show up in person this week?
He does not. But he is heard from again, and asks if he’s on speaker.
Do we learn more about Abbadon this week?
We do.
Do we see Jacob this week?
No.
Since Tunisia is in Africa, isn’t “African/Tunisian man” a little redundant?
I don’t know.
Was last week’s episode the weakest “Lost” season premiere to date?
Yes. Which is not to say it was terrible.
Is tonight’s episode better than last week’s?
Unquestionably.
Does Desmond make any predictions?
No.
Does Michael and/or Walt turn up?
No. But Walt is referenced.
What about Pretend Charlie?
No.
Smokezilla?
No. But Locke does ask Ben what Smokezilla is!
No Christian Shepard?
No.
Horace and Olivia Goodspeed?
No.
Matthew Fox said time travel would be an element of the series. Could Adam and Eve be Jack and Kate?
I don’t know.
What’s great?
“Can’t really say it’s our primary objective.” “Now take me to her body!” “It doesn’t scatter quite right.” “He can’t come to the phone right now.” “She was not on the plane!” Jeremy Davies! Ken Leung! Rebecca Mader! Michael Emerson! Terry O’Quinn! Evangeline Lilly (how come they’re not sticking her in more movies?)! The tool. The collar. The photo of Ben and Ben himself. Most of all, the flashbacks, swimming in fresh mystery!
What’s not so great?
I’d like to know why Frank was so sure the ring wouldn’t fall off.
How does it end, spoiler-boy?
With Ben.
Who are said to be featured in future episodes again?
4.3 “The Economist”: Sayid
4.4 “Eggtown”: Kate
4.5 “The Constant”: Desmond
4.6 “The Other Woman”: Juliet
4.7 “Ji Yeon”: SunJin
4.8 “Meet Kevin Johnson”: Michael
9 p.m. Thursday. ABC.
Great episode tonight...gonna watch it again on the dvr tomorrow; I’m convinced there are many eggs in this one that I did not catch the first go around..
So last night used flashbacks and not flashforwards? How does the plane end up in the ocean? I thought they were flashforwards. Why would Dan be crying when he saw the new reports of the plane’s discovery? Who was the ghost the oriental dude was talking to in the bedroom? The boy who left the island in Season 1?
Does anyone else remember a producer way back during season one saying that everything that is happening on the island has normal and logical explanations? So far that does not seem to be the case. The smoke monster alone appears to defy any normal or logical explanation. Oh well. Still a great show. Keeps us guessing.
Also, how much time has passed since the crash? 90 days?
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