Posted on 05/27/2008 7:11:24 PM PDT by OKSooner
So Obama's lie of the day was that his uncle, was it, who liberated Auschwitz and came home and hid in the attic for six months?
Then, when someone points out that Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet troops, not Americans, Obama has someone on his staff google it and then claims that he mistakenly made the reference to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald, which was liberated by Patton's Third Army.
> Was it one of these four WWII Kansas-natives named Charles Payne...??? Can some FreeperSleuths investigate better than I???
Great start!
If Payne, Charles was Obama’s Great-Uncle and he was actually with the 89th and he did help Patton liberate Buchenwald, we all owe him and his memory a debt of gratitude and Respect.
If not, Obama has some ‘splainin to do.
On Ancestry.com
In January 1942, Illinois Sen. Barak Obama’s 24-year-old grandfather, Stanley Dunham, said goodbye to his wife and infant and enlisted in the U.S. Army. “He signed up for duty, joined Patton’s army and marched across Europe,” said Sen. Obama of his grandfather’s service. But Obama’s American military heritage extends further back
(This still doesn’t say anything directly.)
(also if Boma doesn’t know the difference between a so called uncle and his grandfather, he is even more of an idiot)
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Stanley A Dunham
Name: Stanley A Dunham
Birth Year: 1918
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Kansas
State: Kansas
County or City: Sedgwick
Enlistment Date: 18 Jan 1942
Enlistment State: Kansas
Enlistment City: Fort Levenworth
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life
Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Bandsman, Oboe or Parts Clerk, Automobile
Marital Status: Married
Boma makes slick Willie look mild.
Boma’s claims need to be checked evey time he open’s his mouth and check mate needs to occure.
After his visit, Eisenhower cabled General George C. Marshall, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington, describing his trip to Ohrdruf:
. . .the most interesting--although horrible--sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description. While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape. I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'
I saw that page. The problem I am having is linking any of the “explanations” to public records. There just are no links. If a relative was a member of the liberating recon group why lie and say they were at “Auschwitz and Treblinka”? If he had a family member that was at Ohrdruf then isn’t that enough reason to be proud? He has been lying for over six years about this.
Maybe as one of Obama’s invisible friends.
Yes, that is another great site.
My great uncle actually was in Patton’s Third army and helped liberate Buchenwald.
I saw Buchenwald in 1983 while in East Germany.
Obama is a lose cannon. McCain is going to eat him up on foreign affairs.
They need to be much more explicit.
Let's say, on the offshot, that Uncle was say, OSS on a mission. There's NO way he'd say he was at Treblinka or Aschwitz. Official records would still show him at Location X.
We could also assume he was on special project assignment at Buchenwald.
But there were sooooo many subcamps which were liberated at Buchenwald.
Maybe Obama just wasn't so very interested in the story of an uncle who went into the attic for six months.
Maybe Obama feared if he asked or found out more, he'd wanna hide in the attic for six months -- scary monsters in the attic 'n all that.
I really don't think democrats and liberals understand the precision of military, military records, military orders, military command.
If they did, they would have thoroughly come forward with what they had. The fact that they haven't is supposed to go into some deep dark "need to know" basis about Charlie Payne?
groan...
You hit the nail on the head. Despite his supporters praising him and spinning that all camps the same, since he’s been giving this speech since 2002 it just doesn’t pass the sniff test.
“Are BHO and Hillary! having a lying contest?”
Yes, and BO is winning while
Hillary has slipped into outright threats to assassinate him so she can step in as the “rescue” Dem candidate!
This is the most amazing exposure of Demonrat criminality - and each day has a new “unveiling”....
What about this Charles E. Payne from Augusta, Butler County, KS, which was the same place that the Payne family was listed in the 1930 census:
Payne, Charles E. Inducted 9 June 1943, Army 37531353 Registered, order # V11125 Augusta, Butler Co. (Board # 2)
http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=1036&branch=A
Good work - please keep at it....
I don’t know. I was following the actual family tree from the Suntimes. There was only a Charles W. Payne list there.
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