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To: Yomin Postelnik
That said, I wouldn’t call it scientism, as in truth, their religion is the opposite of real science. They have a closed minded and one sided dogmatic allegiance to a pseudo science that refuses to allow them to consider any alternatives. When they lose on science they take to personally maligning or otherwise attacking their opponets. I’d specify that their religions are Darwinism, Algorism, Fakegaygeneism, etc., but not sciencism, because they are against science (maybe anti-logism).

Getting back to the point we were discussing:

By 1.9 million years ago, another lineage of the genus Homo emerged in Africa. This species was Homo ergaster. Traditionally, scientists have referred to this species as Homo erectus and linked this species name with a proliferation of populations across Africa, Europe, and Asia. Yet, since the first discoveries of Homo erectus, it had been noted that there were differences between the early populations of "Homo erectus" in Africa, and the later populations of Europe, Africa and Asia. Many researchers now separate the two into distinct species Homo ergaster for early African "Homo erectus", and Homo erectus for later populations mainly in Asia. Since modern humans share the same differences as H. ergaster with the Asian H. erectus, scientist consider H. ergaster as the probable ancestor of later Homo populations.

H. ergaster had a rounded cranium and a prominent browridge. Its teeth were much reduced in size, especially when compared to Australopithecus. Several features that distinguish H. ergaster from H. erectus are thinner bones of the skull and the lack of an obvious sulcus, or depression, just behind the browridge.

By 1.6 million years ago, an advance in stone tool technology is identified with H. ergaster. Known as the Achulean stone tool industry, it consisted of large cutting tools, primarily hand axes and cleavers. Originally thought to be responsible for the spread of early humans beyond Africa, it is now known that the migration out of Africa predates this tool industry.

At the top-left is the amazingly well preserved KNM ER 3733 cranium. Second from the top is the type specimen of the Homo ergaster species, the KNM ER 992 mandible. At the bottom is the famous Turkana Boy KNM WT 15000, a nearly complete skeleton dating back to 1.6 million years [see the original website for illustrations].

What evidence do you have to present that shows H. ergaster is not a transitional?



Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

323 posted on 07/04/2008 2:23:05 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Refuted already, in great detail. Please answer the questions instead of spamming an old post.

Anyway, you won’t, so have a happy 4th and I wish you well.


324 posted on 07/04/2008 2:43:57 PM PDT by Yomin Postelnik (Vote the War Hero, Not the Incompetent Noob - Don't Sit Out - Our Security's At Stake)
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