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UFOs spotted by Navy engineer above the M5 motorway
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 7-02-08 | Lucy Cockcroft

Posted on 07/02/2008 4:57:05 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: AlexW

Some say there are 3-4 reasons that’s not true but just appears to be true due to our limited knowledge.

Some say there are 3-4 ways around such issues.

Most reports seem to indicate we just simply don’t know what we’re talking about. So much so that some ET’s find the whole idea of such limitations to be exceedingly laughable.


41 posted on 07/02/2008 12:11:35 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: bmwcyle

An M5 on the M5....may be mistaken for a UFO.


42 posted on 07/02/2008 12:19:57 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: AlexW

Why isn’t it hard to imagine that our atmosphere...at least to UFOs...is merely like water in a very large aquarium.

We’ve all seen dragon flies and moths change direction and fly erratically...hover and dart.

Why not consider that UFOs are intelligent creatures in their own right...and not piloted by something else?


43 posted on 07/02/2008 12:25:22 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot; Quix

“Why not consider that UFOs are intelligent creatures in their own right...and not piloted by something else?”

Yes they can be anything you want. Even if they are a figment of your imagination, for you they are real.
For many, however, life is just an illusion.
We catch dragonflies and moths and we know what they are.

As for visitations from some other world, SHOW ME THE BEEF.

In the meantime I can not care less what some governor, pilot, or anyone else says they saw.


44 posted on 07/02/2008 1:03:26 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Quix

DO you know if there are internet Links to these videos refrenced in the article:

On June 7 three soldiers said they saw 13 UFOs, which looked like “rotating cubes”, while on night patrol at Tern Hill military barracks near Market Drayton, Shropshire. One, Corporal Mark Proctor, 38, of the 1st Battalion of the Irish Regiment, recorded the sighting on his mobile phone and reported it to Army officers.
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Then Father-of-two David Osborne, 47, videoed 12 orange objects in the night sky above Basingstoke, Hampshire, at 10.40pm on June 28


45 posted on 07/02/2008 1:25:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: AlexW

Regarding the darting and hovering comment...

It was to explain a poster questioning the technology that allowed an aircraft...or any machine for that matter...to make sudden drastic changes of direction at high speeds with no negative effects on the structure or possible crew.

If they were a lifeform itself...the mobile ability would explain a lot, IMO.


46 posted on 07/02/2008 1:37:15 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: AlexW; DCPatriot

Welllllllllllllllll AlexW . . . enjoy the illusion that a TYPE II ERROR bites less deadly than a TYPE I error does.

In terms of the notion that some craft appear to be organisms . . . some may be. Some have hypothesized that they are ‘other dimensional’ or ‘spiritual.’ Quite plausible.

However, it doesn’t work for me for all of them. My relative worked around tangible craft that were technology.

Also, there are more than 3,000 verified tangible trace etc. sites wherein the sites visited by; landed on; etc. by UFO’s left tangible scientifically verifiable impacts on the environment in more than 3,000 studied cases. The presentation on that at the Aztec Conference in March was quite convincing and well done.

Of course, until one lands in some folks’ laps, they won’t believe anything unusual is going on.

Scientism and a bastardized version at that, seems to be their religion.


47 posted on 07/02/2008 1:46:14 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe there are video links at ATS. I’d search keywords there and then on dogpile.com

HTTP://WWW.ABOVETOPSECRET.COM


48 posted on 07/02/2008 1:47:13 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: BenLurkin

I’ve seen either video or still—I think video on the web but I don’t have the link handy . . . let me see . . .

Can’t find it.


49 posted on 07/02/2008 1:49:05 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: DCPatriot

There’s evidently some inertial dampening effects vis vis the gravity related propulsion etc.

I’ve seen various explanations for it but they mostly seem to boil down to some variation of the above.

Interestingly, for longer trips, some humans have been encased in fluid filled chambers . . . IIRC, one even having to breathe a highly oxygenated fluid in the fluid filled chamber—very disconcerting.

And, many of the ET’s are quite light—low density critters.


50 posted on 07/02/2008 1:54:00 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: AlexW
ETs would have to break OUR KNOWN laws of physics to get here.

That reminds me of the Amazon tribe story.

What would the tribe members be thinking about 'their' laws of physics, if they didn't know any better?

51 posted on 07/02/2008 2:05:33 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Quix

“Also, there are more than 3,000 verified tangible trace etc. sites wherein the sites visited by; landed on; etc”

I know, I know..(Linda Mugu How are you), is on the seen of all.
So many crop circles to study. And whats his name Houghland
knows all about men on Mars and glass houses on the moon.

SHOW ME THE BEEF.

By the waqy...Whats a tangible trace? A space alian fart?


52 posted on 07/02/2008 2:13:06 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: AlexW
I am not a “denier” of ET, but I am one hell of a skeptic.

There has been over 50 years of ET and not ONE single confirming evidence.

I've said the same thing about a Democrat who wouldn't throw this country under the bus for a handful of silver.

53 posted on 07/02/2008 2:15:54 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: fanfan

“What would the tribe members be thinking about ‘their’ laws of physics, if they didn’t know any better? “

Yes, of course. Maybe there is so much that we don’t know.
Maybe we can travel 10 times the speed of light. How would I know? Show me how.

I had an interesting book from about 1900 or before. It was everything known to science.
It stated that a trans Atlantic cable would be impossible.

As I said from my first post. I am NOT a denier, but I am an extreme skeptic. Show me the beef.
All these anecdotal stories mean nothing.


54 posted on 07/02/2008 2:24:30 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Renfield
Calling Agent Mulder.


55 posted on 07/02/2008 2:26:53 PM PDT by drew
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To: fanfan

“What would the tribe members be thinking about ‘their’ laws of physics, if they didn’t know any better? “

Yes, but have they sent a man to the moon?
Do they have cellphones?
Have they measured the speed of light?
Where do they buy a gallon of gas?

I do, however, get your point.. I do not belong to the Flat Earth Society


56 posted on 07/02/2008 2:34:21 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: AlexW
Yes, but have they sent a man to the moon?
Do they have cellphones?
Have they measured the speed of light?
Where do they buy a gallon of gas?

No, much the same way we haven't traveled between the stars, found the cure for cancer, or controlled the weather.

;-)

They may however have the ability to make you forget that you answered me once already.
LOL.......

(Sorry! I've done it too, more than twice! LOL)

57 posted on 07/02/2008 2:45:29 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: fanfan

Check this out.They saw UFO’s right where I live:)They just reported it on the news.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/113-07022008-1557503.html


58 posted on 07/02/2008 2:56:15 PM PDT by fatima
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To: fatima

Cool!

I bet they use less gas than John Travolta’s airplanes.


59 posted on 07/02/2008 3:03:29 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Marie
Again, are we this good? I really hope so! But it is hard to imagine us mastering this level of technology when we’re still strapping rockets to our butts to get into space. When it’s eventually found out what these objects are, I’m OK either way. The universe is much too vast for me to close my mind to the possibility that there are other “people” out there, but I also think we’re capable of much more than the majority of us can dream.

Amen, Marie! Agreed!

60 posted on 07/02/2008 5:52:57 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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