[grimalkin]

I am tired of this nonsense. An individual life begins even before conception. God knows us even before we’re formed in the womb. These people that would excuse murder as some sort of wonderful public service make me shake my head in disbelief. How sorry for them. They’re in an even worse state than the murdered.

[tongass kid]

Perhaps a spiritual life begins before conception, but a biological life begins at conception. If conception is not the correct answer then we no longer need condoms or pills.