Posted on 10/11/2008 7:55:32 AM PDT by OneVike
Did you fail math at the same time you were failing science?
Or were you home-schooled? Science never made it into your curriculum?
But you no doubt will continue with your talking points like so many helpless liberals before you.
Science is hard. LOL!
Some of those words might be too big for you to understand. Let me know if you need any help.
Both of these groups hate American historical values, they love liberal judges and judicial activist courts who ignore the historic understanding of the first amendment. Both of these liberal groups worship the Big Government public school monopoly above all.
No matter how destructive the Public School Monopoly becomes, the hardcore Evolutionists will still worship the Big Government Public School because their beloved liberal presuppositions are force fed to other peoples children.
The hardcore evolutionists on FR who claim to be small government libertarians are the worst liars of all.
It merits repeating, the Free Republic hardcore evolutionists (infiltrators) worship Big Government at its very worst (public school monopoly) but claim libertarianism as a convenient, dishonest excuse for the extreme moral liberalism they spew on this conservative forum.
They are liars of the worst kind, they repeat the liberal dogma of the far left at DU and the Daily Kos.
Like all liberals, the Free Republic hardcore evolutionist frauds want the Big Government, Big Centralized Power to undermine parental authority while using Big Government Public Schools, (run by liberals) to indoctrinate other people's children.
Shouting scientists down and rushing to courts to silence them and calling that science and then having the gall to call yourself a Reagan Republican, would have Reagan turning in his grave!
Could new evidence or a better theory convince you that the "Theory of Creationism" was wrong?
First, I think the jury will be out for the forseeable future on this subject WAY beyond my lifetime. IS the reverse true? How would you or could you know, if scientists are sued into silence? How do they present their research in a hostile environment? WHY do you think the website exists in the first place? Dissentfromdarwin?Science has no "interest" in God one way or the other. I find it interesting that you project your own insecurities about the algae answer. You may be right but I doubt it, I don't know how God created man other than what we're told and what we guess...I don't think He made us from "primordial soup", then from algae, then from salamanders, then eventually from monkeys.
If more scientific evidence were found or a better theory were proposed, I'd have no problem replacing the Theory of Evolution with something new. That's how science works.
But if you're right, it's still technically ID! So it seems to me by your answer about algae, you already HAVE accepted replacement but just don't realize it! Unless you want to demand contradicting yourself via origins? And I'm all for giving Him the credit!
Exactly. That's why we should keep Creation mythology, of any religion, in the religion classroom and not in the science classroom.
Shouting scientists down and rushing to courts to silence them
I'm not doing that.
First, I think the jury will be out for the forseeable future on this subject WAY beyond my lifetime.
You mean in the future it will be falsifiable, just not now?
But if you're right, it's still technically ID!
If God set things up so we evolved from algae, then you'd agree that the Theory of Evolution is correct?
If you want to set up a charter school where they teach Creation instead of science, I'd support you 100%. Until then, you shouldn't mix religion and science in the public schools.
Falsifiability (or “refutability”) is the logical possibility that an assertion can be shown false by an observation or a physical experiment.
That something is “falsifiable” does not mean it is false; rather, that if it is false, then this can be shown by observation or experiment.
Falsifiability is an important concept in science and the philosophy of science.
Some of those words might be too big for you to understand. Let me know if you need any help.
Well I think everyone can breathe a big sigh of relief that you’ve finally gotten out of your system what everyone else already knew all along!
Sorry, but suing scientists to be silent because you disagree based on ideology, still isn’t science.
Maybe it would help you if you began to realize this entire argument has next to nothing to do with science OR religion.
Scientists will argue about origins until the end of time, and ALL humans are influenced by faith and belief, non-faith and non-belief including scientists.
There’s simply no such thing as a fully objective human being.
But at the heart of the issue is WHO will CONTROL the free flow of public information...the godless liberal NEA failed government schools hellbent to indoctrinate children and socialize them instead of teaching them OR their parents and teachers?
Ironically these are NOT big words or concepts to understand!
Here’s a way to apply your falsifiability: failed gov. run NEA socialist school models are clearly FAILED.
They had their turn. Americans have said enough is enough with their “falsifiable” failures!
Another irony is the idea that some of the sheer lunacy coming out of evolution these days is somehow falisfiable! Just the spots and stripes arguments for example. Endless moving of goalposts, there’s just no explaining why some predators have spots, some stripes, some are brightly colored, some predators do, some don’t...same for prey; forever dancing around and it’s just as ENDLESS as it is MINDLESS...
evolution seems to have NO explanations, “can’t” do this, “won’t” do that, doesn’t address this or that, is not responsible for this or that...GOOD GRIEF, it’s so full of holes as to be comical! It’s not so much that it’s falsifiable as what if anything about it is remotely ACCURATE once it is scrutinized? It seems alot is just made up as one goes along! As I said it’s been hijacked.
And we see what happens to science when it’s hijacked by people like algoreacle!
Meanwhile if someone DARES point ANY of that out we get warned about another Inquisition and the infidel is an ignorant knuckle-dragging idiot incapable of distinguishing religion from science!
Again with the irony: all this from the hardcore cultists that claim they’re nothing more than highly evolved great apes while banning any and all things intelligent from their realms and spaces!
I'm not in favor of scientists being sued into science. If a scientist can find scientific evidence that Creationism is true, I'm all for it.
Here’s a way to apply your falsifiability: failed gov. run NEA socialist school models are clearly FAILED.
I'm far from a supporter of the NEA or NEA run schools. If you want to fight the NEA to get them to teach Reading, Writing and Arithmetic, instead of Heather has 2 Mommies and condom usage for 3rd graders, I'm right there with you.
If you want to fight the NEA to teach religion instead of science in the classroom, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.
And we see what happens to science when it’s hijacked by people like algoreacle!
Man made global warming can be disproved, Creationism can't. That's why it isn't science.
I'm not in favor of scientists being sued into science. If a scientist can find scientific evidence that Creationism is true, I'm all for it.
Of course not, the liberal NEA loons are doing it for you! Meanwhile you just denounce scientists that dissent from darwin and call that religion! It's silence not science, but in a weird way that's also accurate, because we all well know it's not just the NEA, it's liberal professors that fully know an intelligent designer simply CAN not and WILL not jive with their worldview, science be damned! Well check that, the grown-ups understand it anyway.Everytime a scientist dissents evos employ the exact tactic that they accuse of others doing, dragging their ideology into science.
It's also telling that evolution need not be "true", but only creationsism has to be true.
Man made global warming can be disproved, Creationism can't. That's why it isn't science.
And as we all understand evolution is exempt. Got it. Always have understood it. As I've said countless times, if hardcore evos just spent 1/1000000000th of their time worried about people like the algoreacle as opposed to their insecurities about God, science would be SOOOOO much better off! IF indeed it's true that global warming can be disproved, an AWFULLY poor job is being done to do so! And yet are the algoreacles being sued into silence? Why no! That's because GOD IS NOT IN THE EQUATION! On this thread alone another hardcore evo admitted the dissentfromdarwin chemist related chemicals don't group in a logical purposeful way on their own and need some kind of intelligent influence to do so, he admitted that this was neither religious or UNscientific, but when pressed he stormed off uttering something about MY rudeness fully ignoring his cohort calling everyone else all kinds of names.So it seems the ONLY argument hardcore evos are able to employ is their endless projections.
Exactly. That's why we should keep Creation mythology, of any religion, in the religion classroom and not in the science classroom.
Repeating the same cult mantra doesn't prove your point anymore than the first time you spouted it.
You mean in the future it will be falsifiable, just not now?
Geez...meantime we hear just give evolution a few more trillion years...YOU'll see!
My but how convenient!
And how hypocritical!
Meanwhile you think it's perfectly OK to force YOUR godless worldview of science on everyone, even if the majority of parents disagree with you.
Right.
NO thanks. And please stop pretending that's somehow Reaganesque.
One Nation Under "GOD".....?
Well, as long as 'God' didn't 'design' anything.
Endowed by our 'Creator' with certain inalienable rights...?
The FR fanatical liberal evolutionists insist upon blackballing our 'Creator'.
The more squeamish Free Republic hardcore evolutionist liars are not quite as bold, they just insist on a 'creator' that did not create anything or at least a creator that did not use 'design' when He did create something...anything.
The Free Republic hardcore evolutionists are snake in the grass liberals who support the worst of the godless nonsense forwarded by the dregs of the far left fanatics who support the marxist Obama.
I couldn’t agree more!
I think there’s a much larger picture...we see the exact same tactics when it comes to godless liberals when they are:
attacking law by trying to remove 10 commandments from courtrooms and their idiotic separation of church and state lunacy, hijacking activist liberal judges for all their myriad anti-god pet projects.
attacking history by attempting to rewrite it by claiming our govt wasn’t deeply steeped in Christian principles.
attacking journalism...see drive-bys carrying bambi’s water.
attacking politics...have hijacked an entire party to the point it is now unrecognizable.
attacking education in general...when kids now open a history book the thing they take away is what a terrible country the US is for dropping the bomb first and interring the Japanese.
attacking our culture by demanding crosses be removed from town logos, people being harassed by merely saying ‘Merry Christmas’, gay marriage, banning the mere word Christmas from our kids school calendar, banning santa from lighting a Christmas tree in Montgomery County Maryland, etc. etc. etc.
attacking our financial institutions and capitalism via class envy, wealth redistribution, “taxes are patriotic”, Barney Franks, Charlie Rangel...etc.
godless liberals are as UNobjective as anyone could ever possibly be, are dangerous and destructive in their mindless quest for an anti-theocratic, anti-religious, anti-moral, anti-sensical world.
The hijacking of evolution issue is but a microcosm and symptom of a much MUCH larger disease.
Godless liberalism is just a fancy word for complete chaos and the results of being out of God’s will and demnanding to be separated from Him.
Liberalism destroys common sense, attacks our Judeo-Christian culture, and ruins the brain.
It is far and away this country’s largest problem...we have a PROFOUND mental health crisis in this country and only half of the sane half of us recognize it for what it is on a good day!
Keeping religion out of science class, the fiends!
Meanwhile you just denounce scientists that dissent from darwin and call that religion!
But I don't denounce scientists who dissent from Darwin.
It's also telling that evolution need not be "true",
Evolution could be disproved tomorrow and that would be fine with me.
How could we disprove Creationism? And if we can't disprove it, it doesn't belong in science class.
And as we all understand evolution is exempt.
It's not exempt. You understand nothing.
IF indeed it's true that global warming can be disproved, an AWFULLY poor job is being done to do so!
The nice thing about science is that evidence continues to accumulate. The same can't be said about Creationism.
And yet are the algoreacles being sued into silence?
Maybe if they said, "God made it hot", they would be.
Science is hard.
Keeping religion out of science class, the fiends!
But I don’t denounce scientists who dissent from Darwin.
Your first two sentences betray each other, and ultimately you, just like your answer about algae.
God waved his hand is not scientific evidence, just to be clear.
And yet are the algoreacles being sued into silence?
Maybe if they said, “God made it hot”, they would be.
And this last statement TRULY illustrates your argument for exactly what it is in a nutshell...it doesn’t matter if it’s not about the science, or isn’t correct, or isn’t truthful;
NOPE the one and only issue between you and science is that somehow God is kept out of it.
Your issue is your insecurity to the point you have to rely on liberal judges to enforce others to accept it. Your idea is normal people that disagree with your worldview should just go pay for their own schools AND yours.
In a freakish way it kind of reminds me of militant homsexuality. Forcing others to sccept the lifestyle as normal when almost everyone knows it’s just not!
Much less Reaganesque!
translation: the cult of liberalism is hard headed.
Of course the truth matters. That's why I think, in the next few years, man-made global warming will be disproved.
NOPE the one and only issue between you and science is that somehow God is kept out of it.
It's true, God should be kept out of science class.
Your issue is your insecurity to the point you have to rely on liberal judges to enforce others to accept it. Your idea is normal people that disagree with your worldview should just go pay for their own schools AND yours.
Feel free to start a charter school to teach the Bible in science class.
as normal when almost everyone knows it’s just not!
Science isn't normal? You're funny.
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