1 posted on
11/05/2008 5:25:47 AM PST by
VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
They'll subtly and sometimes boldly undermine Conservative principles under the guise of bringing forth common understanding. Naw... RINO's like McCain already did that. We're just gonna sit back and say, "We told you so..."
2 posted on
11/05/2008 5:28:31 AM PST by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: VaBthang4
Is there some reason that you wish to alienate Libertarians? They had absolutely nothing to do with the fiasco of a campaign that McCain ran.............
3 posted on
11/05/2008 5:30:26 AM PST by
Red Badger
(My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)
To: VaBthang4
Dismiss them as quickly as you would the most ardent liberal...because in the end, their perspectives spring from the same well; Anomia.
Why not just dismiss everybody...Libertarians, Reagan Democrats, hispanics, blacks....did I leave anybody to dismiss out? Bet that works good.
4 posted on
11/05/2008 5:30:57 AM PST by
Arkinsaw
To: VaBthang4
They will explain how conservatives did this wrong, did that wrong etc, etc. They'll subtly and sometimes boldly undermine Conservative principles under the guise of bringing forth common understanding. One take home message we ought to garner from last night's results is that economic libertarianism is not the winning issue everyone seems to think it is. It's telling that the guy whose campaign focused on the economy (granted, he was more or less forced into it by circumstances beyond his control) and responded by trying to preach economic libertarianism to a nation seeing its financial system melt down got his head handed to him, but that explicit social conservatism did much better. Seems like the only conservatives who were even close to being winners last night were the social conservatives, what with the bans on gay marriage in AZ and FL passing, the ban in liberal CA being still too close to call, and an extremely radical ban on abortion in SD losing by only 10%.
To: VaBthang4; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Sure...
Let's not blame the party that abandoned all the aspects of Reaganism that made it great.
Let's not blame the party that talked about small Government, while growing it MORE THAN EVER.
Let's not blame the party that refused to fight the biggest move toward socialism since the 'New Deal' and 'Great Society'....
Naaa....let's blame Libertarians. It's so much easier than looking in the mirror.
Libertarian ping! Click
here to get added or
here to be removed or just reply to this post!
6 posted on
11/05/2008 5:32:30 AM PST by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: VaBthang4
Excuse me. But this Libertarian tried to help stop Obama. It is now I who dissmiss you...my friend. Ron Paul would of beaten Obama. You better wake up FAST.
To: VaBthang4
Until various factions of conservatism realize and accept that there are many meanings of the word conservatism, there will be no party rebuilding (Republican or other parties). They will simply blame each other and claim that their ideas are the ‘pure’ conservatism, while others are not.
12 posted on
11/05/2008 5:36:33 AM PST by
paudio
(Conservatism is a word with various meanings.)
To: VaBthang4
Libertarian votes cost McCain the election in many states. Look at how many votes Barr took away from McCain and I think you’ll see where our victory went. Barr was nothing more than Ross Perot for the 2008 election.
14 posted on
11/05/2008 5:37:01 AM PST by
pctech
To: VaBthang4
52-46.
The only people around here stabbing conservatives in the back are the RINOs. Even giving Libertarians 2% of the vote—a stretch, according to the anti-Libertarians around here—guess what? MCQUEEG lost this one because of Bush and because of a porkbarreling Republican congressional delegation. Not libertarians.
22 posted on
11/05/2008 5:43:54 AM PST by
LibertarianInExile
(Looks like the Constitution is gonna be a "living, breathing document" again. Sigh.)
To: VaBthang4
One would think one would beware PUMAs bearing gifts long before criticizing our conservative cousins, our long time allies.
The mentality that mistrusts libertarians while colluding with Hitlery’s troops is what left so many flat-footed last evening.
I recommend a reality check, and as soon as possible.
24 posted on
11/05/2008 5:45:14 AM PST by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
To: VaBthang4
What, specifically, is unconservative about libertarianism?
I’d like details. I find them very appealing since the Republican party deserted me.
28 posted on
11/05/2008 5:47:09 AM PST by
mabelkitty
(Obama is the ILLEGAL PRESIDENT until I see proof of his American birth)
To: VaBthang4
Yes. Lets chase those filthy Libertarians away from the Republican party. Its big, and successful enough without their conservatism weighing it down.
Dems blame Bush for everything. Lets be even more just like them and blame Libertarians.
I hate them sooo much!!
29 posted on
11/05/2008 5:47:10 AM PST by
laotzu
To: VaBthang4
I thought conservatives were about getting the government back to its proper constitutional role? Apparently that is not the case for some.
32 posted on
11/05/2008 5:48:58 AM PST by
Harry Wurzbach
(Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
To: VaBthang4
The fact is that McCain would have won this election if he had stood up and opposed the bailout like 80% of Americans wanted.
But he couldn't.
THAT is why he is not the President-elect this morning.
Nominate someone who is with the people, like Reagan, and you will win.
37 posted on
11/05/2008 5:51:49 AM PST by
Arkinsaw
To: VaBthang4
Why bash on Libertarians now? From my perspective, they weren't much of an issue this election, tho I did see one Bob Barr sign here in south Alabama.
If you must blame someone, blame the American sheeple who voted for such a questionable character. The American sheeple who let the media/Hollywood elite drag them around by the nose.
Me? I'm just going to sign up for welfare, food stamps etc. And watch this circus unfold, from my knees.
43 posted on
11/05/2008 6:04:04 AM PST by
sweet_diane
(Rest in Peace Fairhope High School senior Steve Dorsey. Your kindness and laughter not forgotten.)
To: VaBthang4
In the end, the Libertarian vote, if it had been funneled to McCain, wouldn’t have helped him on this.
McCain, if he had made the case for conservatism, would have done it. As is was, only Palin seemed to push these principles. McCain was out there promising new programs for buying additional mortgages and such and lied during the primaries when he said he was the “true conservative” the week Romney dropped out (Romney isn’t a “true conservative,” either).
We need to get the TRUE true conservative voice out there and we will win. Chasing after “independents” and Democrats with liberal policies didn’t help McCain after all his years of pandering while knocking down the Republican party.
Liberals and “independents,” when faced with a more liberal choice, will invariably choose it.
55 posted on
11/05/2008 6:34:00 AM PST by
ConservativeMind
(Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
To: VaBthang4
Okay, I'll play your game. Let's turn it around and say, "what if all Republicans backed Ron Paul?"
I think that instead of an anti-American Marxist lined up to be elected, we'd have a traditional conservative waiting for the Electoral College to convene, as Ron Paul would have pulled in many Independents.
So by your "logic" technique, Obama's victory is the fault of Republicans who didn't support Ron Paul.
57 posted on
11/05/2008 6:45:12 AM PST by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
To: VaBthang4
"Dismiss them as quickly as you would the most ardent liberal...because in the end, their perspectives spring from the same well; Anomia."
WHY???? There is a lot of truth in much of there critique! The GOP has abandoned any pretext to be the party of limited government. Acknowledging this indisputable truth does not mean I jump once more in the third party direction, been there done that.
68 posted on
11/05/2008 7:17:40 AM PST by
rob777
(Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
To: VaBthang4
Yeah, it was the Libertarians who sank the party.
We are OVERWHELMED with guilt!
My God, is there no end to the stupidity of neocons?
71 posted on
11/05/2008 7:51:08 AM PST by
slnk_rules
(http://mises.org)
To: VaBthang4
Lessee....Constitutional government, reducing and eliminating some taxes, 2A supporters....yep, those libertarians are really liberal leftists in disguise!
Want to find blame? Look to the GOP for the candidate they chose.
When a product fails, no sane person blames the consumer for not loving the product...only the GOP does that!
88 posted on
11/05/2008 9:51:26 AM PST by
Eagle Eye
(Obama's Marxism--Chains you can believe in)
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