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To: myself6

>> For you, that means opening your eyes to the reality of the situation. That also means stop calling for us to be congratulatory and or Gracious. I would no sooner be gracious in this defeat than Macarthur was at the start of WWII. If you try to make the point that its different, then it only proves you do not have a grasp on the nature of the enemy.

Rush Limbaugh Pearl of Wisdom from TODAY’s show:

“I’m not against graciousness and being congratulatory towards President-Elect Obama, but the motivation for it troubles me greatly, as we seek here not to ‘rebuild’ the conservative movement, by the way, but to simply reestablish it and take it back from a bunch of frauds and pretenders who want to ‘redefine’ it.”

This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about doing. Be gracious and congratulatory ... and reestablish the conservative movement of the Reagan era.

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97 posted on 11/05/2008 2:27:53 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Hemorrhage

I think I know where my contention with you (and probably rush too) lies...

Its in the approach, the means and the strategy.

Im convinced, as are others, that we cannot uproot this enemy through conventional means. The system is broken and will become a tool of the marxists. Its what they do to hold power. They will build and strengthen their infrastructure, and they WILL dismantle ours.

I am upset.. well no furious is probably a better word, with those who do not see this reality. They insist everything is still working according to the framers plan. This was the key piece of Patrick’s speech.

>> “Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.”

We differ in our assessment of the danger and therefore we differ in our assessment of the measures that must be taken.

Many among us bristle at the thought of taking up arms against the Marxists or even just separating ourselves from them. Why? Because those marxsts infest the positions of power in the United States government. Something too many have made a HOLY idol above the “mere” documents and principles that created it. They forget that those documents and principles only have weight if they hold weight in the minds of the men and women who’s duty it is to protect them. I can tell you without a doubt, the only thing on the minds of those who just got “elected” is replacement of those documents. The reaction from those people reminds me of this section...

>> They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

Im not positive that our disagreement is insurmountable but it WILL require you to see and hear what is right in front of your face.


98 posted on 11/05/2008 3:03:03 PM PST by myself6 (.)
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