Posted on 11/15/2008 8:48:13 AM PST by Amityschild
OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN "AT BIRTH" - AS SUCH, OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES
Barack Obama's official web site, Fight The Smears, admits he was a British Citizen at birth. At the very bottom of the section of his web site that shows an alleged official Certification Of Live Birth, the web site lists the following information and link thereto: FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen "at birth".
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Not this sh|t again...
The little girls will be along any minute now to whine about how it makes us look to talk about this.
Assuming he was born in Hawaii, yes.
Hawaii became a state in 1959. He was born in Hawaii in 1961. That makes him a natural born citizen, regardless of his father's citizenship.
^^^OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES^^^
Umm, isn’t Hawaii part of the US?
I think British subject rather than citizen.
Same sh!t different day.
WE can’t let an antiquated, pesky document like the Constituution stand in the way of what’s right.
WE can’t let an antiquated, pesky document like the Constituution stand in the way of the change we need.
Was he?
He says he was, but seems oddly unwilling to disclose his birth certificate.
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Sorry, that particular dog won’t hunt. As a minor, he could be both a natural born US citizen and a UK citizen. This has been explored.
There are other legit questions about his citizenship status, though.
Yes. Prove he was born there and this entire conversation goes away.
Uhm, well, he’s really Zanzibarbarian.
If he was indeed born in Hawaii, then he is also a US citizen and a native-born one at that.
While I dislike Obama as much as anyone, and I do have legitimate questions about his past, if this is how it works out, it doesn’t matter.
A child can have dual citizenship at birth - happens all the time. The fact that his British/Kenyan citizenship “expired” in 82 leaves him solely a US citizen, who was native born, assuming he was born in Hawaii.
When was this british citizen part added?
If he was born in Hawaii, he’s fine by nature of jus soli.
Amen! and Ping to LucyT!
Disappearing from that website in 10..9..8..7..6....
I am so sick and tired of the dismissive attitudes regarding this. It is a huge issue and deserves our attention.
People, the argument here is that his dual citizenship at birth (admitted by the Obama campaign) is in conflict with his being a “natural-born citizen.” I’m not sure there’s a conflict, but please at least address that issue in your responses, since that’s the point the poster is trying to make.
HILARY’S baking a batch of cookies as we speak.
I believe the real issue is that his Kenyan grandmother has said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. That is what needs to be disproved, and why people are asking to see his birth certificate.
Even if he was born to an American mother in Kenya, he would not be a “natural born citizen” as required to be a president by the US Constitution. A “citizen”, yes, but not a “natural born citizen.”
So is he also really the first Jewish American President?
(If so that would also make him the first JAP, Jewish American President.)
You’re kidding right? Any person born in America -Honolulu is an American city- is an America. Honolulu is in Hawaii.
A child born in America is an American citizen. This is just stupid.
Finally-someone with a brain. We should oppose Obama, but lets not be distracted by this nonsense.
Illegal aliens that sneak in this country and give birth to their child in one of our hospitals makes that child an American citizen. What you provided does not make him ineligible. Now if he was not really born in Hawaii then that is a different story altogether. Let’s hope Alan Keyes suit will allow the light that needs to be shed on this issue be shown.
I was taught in high school that a natural-born citizen was someone who was a citizen from the moment of birth. That would make him eligible if he was born to an American mother, would it not?
If what you say is true, McCain would be ineligible because he was born in Panama.
It’s a non-starter and should be abandoned for more fruitful items.
Teams of lawyers are helping him hide the truth. I want the truth. I can handle the truth. The issue will not go away until we have the truth.
People can give the “not this s**t again” and “beating a dead horse” as much as they want. I want the truth. I want to be sure the US Constitution is upheld.
>>>I am so sick and tired of the dismissive attitudes regarding this. It is a huge issue and deserves our attention
This crap has been flung at the wall more times than I care to count. It ain’t stickin’.
A fact that is apparently still not in evidence.
When “conservatives” no longer care about the constitution, the nation is gone.
One of the most pathetic comments I’ve seen is a FReeper calling it a constitutional technicality and the best way to protect the constitution is to let it slide. I wonder what other “technicalities” they would be willing to let slide? Maybe the 2nd amendment, or the 1st, since it would be a good way to silence us so we don’t embarrass their cowardly butts.
Letting it slide is how Roger Calero got his name on the ballot in several states despite being a previously deported non resident alien. Granted he had no chance of winning but if he did, would we let it slide?
“As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr....”
Isn’t this referring to his father?
no admission here.
This thing is in the works... no need to over-sell it.
Wait for some real news about it.
That's not entirely true. In Kenya, the law does say a citizen can only be Kenyan and nothing else. Oboma had to deny his American citizenship after the age of 18. That's the law there.
BUT......
If he had a friend or relative in the government, he's given a pass and still remains a citizen. Odinga, the president of Kenya (who Oboma campaigned for) is Obomas cousin.
A president elect with duo citizenship is unconstitutional because he/she has duo allegiances.
AND......
Oboma would have to take an oath of citizenship in the United States to become a citizen the same way Immigrants from Mexico have to if he were not a natural born a citizen.
Please let me know when it is over.
P.S. Thank's in advance.
Well, I’m not sure this is an admission of anything, since it’s a comment on Fight the Smears linking to FactCheck.org, and Obama could argue that his handlers or his pals at FactCheck got it wrong.
But it still leaves us with the UNDENIABLE FACT that Obama refuses to produce his real birth certificate.
He should not be recognized as the constitutionally legitimate President of the United States until he produces real, hard, properly certified evidence of natural born citizenship. There are too many doubts here to let him off the hook. Let’s see the original vault certificate, a current COLB duly released by the Hawaii authorities, and records from the three universities he attended showing what he said his citizenship was when he applied to their programs. Also his passport records.
All of this would certainly be demanded by the press if he were a Republican. Hundreds of pages of National Guard records were not enough for Bush. Five hundred pages of medical records were not enough for McCain. But clinton, Obama, and Biden never released their basic medical records, and nothing is said.
Well, that is arguable. But proof of natural born citizenship when grave doubts have been legitimately raised must be insisted on if he is to assume the presidency. WHAT IS SO SECRET ABOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Everyone is obliged to show it in order to get a passport or a driver’s license, or to receive a security clearance, or to enter the military.
There is plenty of evidence that Obama’s COLBs posted on the net, and more recently his certificate of registration for the draft, are crude forgeries. That is even more reason wny he must not be sworn into office until he has coughed up undeniable proof that he is qualified. And that doesn’t mean just another fake COLB produced on-line the day before the inauguration.
There's no proof he was actually born in Hawaii. There's more proof he was born in Kenya. That's what all the law suits are about. He refuses to show any documents pertaining to his birth records.
That's the catch here.
This has already been decided. Anyone born on a military base to American parents, as was McCain, is deemed to be born on American soil, and thus would be considered “natural born citizens.”
Obama’s grandmother alleges he was born in Kenya- not on a military base.
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