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To: Lurker

I have a basic (but hopefully not too ignorant) question about shotguns.

Is there a reason that I never see them come with a ammo clip (like the m-16) ? It seems that it would take a long time to reload a shotgun under pressure without the benefit of having a clip.

Thanks in advance.


34 posted on 12/28/2008 4:50:21 PM PST by jefferson31415
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To: jefferson31415
"because they look scary"?


36 posted on 12/28/2008 4:55:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jefferson31415

look up the USAS-12


40 posted on 12/28/2008 4:57:58 PM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: jefferson31415

There are a few shotguns which take a detachable magazine for reloading. The Russian Saiga is one. Another was the old Mossberg which I mentioned in an earlier post.

I think the main reason is most shotguns are used for bird hunting where extremely quick reloads are not required plus it is pretty fast to reload most pumps and autoloaders anyway. Also since a 12 gauge shell is pretty large, the mags must also be a bit large and cumbersome.

Most shotgun hunters are traditionalists and like the way they look with the undertube magazine.

There really is no reason they couldn’t use the detachable system.


44 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:14 PM PST by yarddog
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To: jefferson31415
The Saiga shotgun has a removable magazine. It is based on the AK-47.

Actually, with a pump gun, you can reload quite quickly. You insert shells into the tube magazine during breaks in the action.

Here is a pic of a couple Saiga-12s.


45 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:29 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: jefferson31415

Saiga-12 semi-auto shotgun

48 posted on 12/28/2008 5:00:16 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: jefferson31415
Actually some do have a magazine. Take the Saiga 12 for example.


51 posted on 12/28/2008 5:04:55 PM PST by RonboTex (Go ahead... Make my day.)
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To: jefferson31415

Aside from game hunting regulations, no reason.


111 posted on 12/28/2008 7:06:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: jefferson31415
Is there a reason that I never see them come with a ammo clip (like the m-16)

There is a Russian made Saiga shotgun which feeds from a box magazine, but it's a semi-automatic not a pump action like the Mossberg.

The reason, just my opinion here, that more of that type aren't made is weight and cost. The Saiga design is basically a modified Kalishnikov sized up to accept 12 gauge rounds.

Also, once again strictly my opinion, putting the weight of the cartridges forward as in a tube fed design helps to control recoil.

It also makes the weapon more slim and improves handling over a magazine fed design.

L

125 posted on 12/28/2008 7:50:02 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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