Posted on 01/02/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by patriot08
Ed Hale of Plains Radio has secured a copy of the Dunham/Obama divorce decree as promised. He has registered this at the courthouse and has turned the document over to lawyers who are reported to be happy and enthused over the contents.
This is the first page. This is all that can be divulged at this time as those who have seen the decree are sworn to silence. You may hear information about it tonight on Ed's plainsradio show.
Try to find an obit for her, there was no funeral her ashes were scattered.
The family lived in two homes with lawns the one on Kamehameha Ave., and one on University Ave. Grandma and grandpa moved to the apartment at S.Beretania St. in 1967, 3 years before Maya was even born! Grandma remained in that apartment for more than 40 yrs until her death Nov.2nd
SHe flew...Not enough time between time of birth and registration in HI.
OK I’m going to look under Stanley Ann D. Obama/ Boston ANyone know the best ancetry port of entry sight?
Feel free. Ignore til yer heart’s content.
Well, if everyone is waiting for the Supreme Court to make a determination of the eligibility question on Obama and they do decide and it’s not the way that people here want it — then who is next “up the ladder”...
It beginning to seem that there is no authority in the entire land, no matter where it exists in the Constitution or anywhere that would suffice as an answer — if — it did not agree with your own opinion. It doesn’t seem like it’s a country of laws — but rather a country of opinions... now...
I agree. It’s like chinese water-torture, drip drip drip and finally it wears a hole in your head...I would like to add this - what if she didn’t arrive from Kenya, but came from Canada, from an unmarried mother’s home?
What requirements would she need to fulfill at entry into the US?
it is getting to be that time...
Then ignore it, dillweed, as the unimportant gibberish you believe it is.
Right so you are on a crusade to let everyone know that all be alright if Obama is ineligible and the Constitution gets ignored.
And you are on another crusade in this thread to tell us all that we should accept whatever the Supreme Court says and never disagree and fight to change it.
You are not a liberal?
Actually there is very little info about Orland and Thelma, I spent a great deal of time searching! There are more google hits for me than for either of them and he had a Phd.
Of course not, since, and read slowly, IT WAS NEVER PROVED.
All the things you list would have been a problem, if the issue were proved, and will be IF it comes out that Obama is not eligible. IF it never does, then obviously it won't be a problem with him either. But that's a big if these days. Is there any evidence that once Arther was elected VP, and became President via an assassination, there was any serious effort to uncover the truth. Also consider that there was not nearly the paper trail in those days as there is today. Plus no electronic records, no internet, etc.
I think she phoned her mother’s friend in Seattle and asked her to come get her.
Okay, I can buy that. There is still room for change, working within the system that we have in order to make that change, while accepting (in the way of a court order) what is not agreed upon — for now... [I think... :-) ]
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Of course, there is always one particular option for possibly some individuals (which is sort of extreme, but possible) and for deeply held convictions (and you have to be careful here) there is civil disobedience (but that should be rare, and one has to accept the penalties involved in engaging in that, too...)
You seem like you are in a muddle. This is also a typical state that liberals enter when discussing law and the Constitution. They make it seem like both sids are equally subjective on the issue even though it is themselves who want to not be objective in regards to the facts. Conservatives on this issue want the rule of law to be upheld, yet you are arguing based upon the past case of Arthur that it dosent really matter.
If the S Ct hears the case, discusses the case, votes on the case, and finds that he was born in Hawaii, based on Obama providing a birth certificate, determines that a son of a Kenyan can still be a natural born US citizen, determines that someone who was an Indonesian citizen can be a natural born US Citizen, that would be fine with me and fine with most here.
If the S Ct refuses to hear the case, most here would suppose that the reason they refused to hear the case was because of legal technicalities. Perhaps the specific argument wasn’t to the court’s liking. Most here would keep trying, or support those who are continuing to try.
To many (not many here, but many) Bush is not a legitimate President, and to many here, unless the S Ct. gives the Obama Presidency an explicit stamp of approval, the Obama Presidency would not be seen as a legitimate one.
Most do not think that the S Ct will explicitly rule here and most here do not think of Obama as a legitimate President.
Thank you. Most annoying poster ever. Long posts babbling on to distract others from trying to find the truth
Well, yes and no. They did the best they could, but most airplanes then did not have the range to fly a true great circle (polar) route from London to Calgary, Vancouver or Seattle. Thus they would have an intermediate stop in Gander Newfoundland to refuel, take on more food and drink, and empty the wastewater holding tanks.
Wow, wish I could find such good renters!
Well, I know it wasn’t proved — but it was suspected and it was an allegation. And likewise for Obama, it’s not proved, but it is suspected and it is an allegation (at least in terms of a court not “proving” it, at this point in time)...
So, if Obama goes all through his term and nothing is proven and the courts do not decide against him — then it’s comparable to the situation that President Arthur was in...
That’s always been the biggest problem I see here with Obama, in that it’s not proven.., and it appears that he’s still going to be President.
Obama Sr was still attending UH at Manoa in 1961. He graduated from there June 22,1962 and went on a month and a half tour of the U.S. before arriving in MA prior to attending Harvard!
It's called "consent of the governed."
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...
-PJ
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