Posted on 01/02/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by patriot08
Ed Hale of Plains Radio has secured a copy of the Dunham/Obama divorce decree as promised. He has registered this at the courthouse and has turned the document over to lawyers who are reported to be happy and enthused over the contents.
This is the first page. This is all that can be divulged at this time as those who have seen the decree are sworn to silence. You may hear information about it tonight on Ed's plainsradio show.
I doubt that is what Berg was saying. At least not as applied to a court. Even under the laws of the State of Hawaii, and the privacy act, a court of competant jurisdiction can order the state to produce a copy of a vital record. But absent such a court order, then yes he can't be compelled to produce the BC, nor is there any rule or law saying he must as matter of course produce it. I know you want to change that, and so do the rest of us, but not just for future elections, but for this one, which is the first in well over a hundred years, where either the President or VP, and the first where the Presidential nominee/President-elect was suspect of not meeting the Natural born test. And only the second one ever. The Supreme was not involved at all in that first one. This time they are, and should do the job properly, meaning they should examine the issues and rule on the merits. If they don't then confidence in the system is greatly weakened.
We will if they say it can be compelled. We won’t get it if they say it cannot be compelled.
And if they say niether? Or refuse to examine what evidence there is for suspecting that Obama is not Natural born? What then?
Refusing to decide is not going to settle the matter, except in the sense that nothing else can be done, unless and until further evidence is brought forward. Evidence such as an entry in an INS log somewhere. Or an airline file, which might show that Stanley Ann traveled from Kenya to the US around the time of BHO Jr's birth. Or even a canceled check from Grandma Toot to said airline at the appropriate time.
-PJ
Stop using Google.
Use www.icerocket.com.
Hope that helps.
Star Trav was talking along the lines of armed revolt or accepting Obama. As in, if you don’t accept Obama you believe in armed revolt or something of the sort.
Most here don’t accept Obama yet do not publicly support armed revolt.
I didn’t think anyone was advocating armed revolt.
The Armed Revolt had been underway for well over a year (April 19th, 1775 to June-July of 1776 when the declaration was drafted). The Declaration was a statement of cause, and a of principle, not a declaration of revolt.
No, I know nothing about that site.
-PJ
That part I heard, he said they were missing, and he did not know why. I thought he said he'd have the missing pages on Monday, but if he said he could have the Kenyan BC by Monday, I hope he has good bodyguards.
Comment on Axalltorfing pre 11/04/08 from “anonymous O campaign worker may help explain some people actions on this thread tonight:
...”We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”
We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.
We did this the whole primary and it worked.
Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc....”
back in ‘61, I was traveling with a group of HS kids from church to Vancouver, BC from WA State. We crossed the border at Blaine into Canada and also returning to the USA a few days later.
The border agents, both northbound and southbound, only questioned the driver. We were waved through without showing ID - nothing. Matter-of-fact, I know I carried no ID identifying myself as a US citizen.
Then again, in ‘69, we drove up to Canada from E. WA, crossed the border, I, as the driver, showed ID (Wa DL), passed through each way, and we were on our way to visit Cananda and return. Never even occurred to us that we would need a passport. That’s just the way things were in the good ol’ days.
They haven't discourage me one iota. Matter-of-fact, I've been reading all this stuff since the first thread (The BIG Thread) back in July, waiting and waiting for some more and more damaging messages to "That One".
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can someone sum up this stuff? ...I was out all evening, saw this when the divorce papers were first put up but did not see that it was a big deal ...where is the meat?
Certainly. ED sort of played mind games part of the evening....Finally he posted part of the divorce papers. Looking over them they are rather routine. Nothing special in what he posted....She was using Stanley Ann D. Obama as her name.
Apparently from that information they have been able to go to the Port of Entry and locate their return trip records....She would have to present the BC to get the baby into the country.
Several are looking for that information, but others think Ed already has it.....Lucy T posted some links to good comments I’ll see if I can find it.
Thanks so much...I hope this pans out...but it seems to be very confusing from a legal perspective
From a legal propective...the papers tonight are only a drip in the ocean....the entire picture is so much bigger. A week or so ago I stared looking into the CHicago connections....Their is so much corruptions and so much of it is connected a layer or two away from BHO
FOr example: Blank=O appoints Burris. Burris is connected to a guy named Jim Reynolds who is in business with Michello brother, Craig Robinson, whose company has been connected to the pay for play?/corruption case in Philadelphia, Mayor, Street
It just goes on and on..and on ...and....
Surely you don’t think that any Freeper is going to blow up the White House!
Each of those Justices takes an oath to uphold the Constitution. It’s debatable whether some have ignored that oath.
With all the mystery surrounding Obama, some Americans may reject him as our President without a determination that he is indeed a natural citizen. But that rejection doesn’t mean very much in the big picture. It’s not as if we can ignore the bills and orders he’ll sign into law.
I wish Obama would just produce his damn birth certificate. But if he doesn’t, I think the Supreme Court has a Constitutional duty to rule on whether he is qualified to hold office. But I also think the Justices won’t touch this political hot potato.
“where are the missing pages”
I’m playing catch-up here this morning. But yesterday I was reading along on the chat room when this whole thing was breaking, and Caren (Ed Hale’s wife) said that they did not post them because it was (apparently) not-very-nice stuff that minors shouldn’t see. It must have been the testimony part.
The *person* you have pinged *is* not willing to text with *idiots*.
While *you* may think you understand you *really* don’t. *only* I understand.
So read my posts so you can become as smart as me.
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