[mrjesse]

Said greywhiskers:Knock it off, all of you. /Coyoteman mode>

The *REAL* problem is that some of the people disputing about the apparent solar position are EGOcentric ;-)

"An you'all KNOW what I'm talkin' about !"

Cheers!

[grin] yeah, yeah...cute...

But seriously, does it not bother you when somebody makes untrue claims, denounces as a lier anyone who asks him to demonstrate, and yet refuses to apply his claims to some simple tests because he knows they'd look absurd?

Thanks,

-Jesse

[grey_whiskers]

The issue at hand is that nobody remembered to specify which frame of reference to use when considering the problem: the Sun, the Earth, or an observer outside them both.

I haven't had any formal training in relativity, but I seem to remember from reading on General relativity (accelerated bodies) that there is NO SUCH THING as a universal, preferred reference frame, only approximations to such.

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

If someone wants to troll, play along for a bit.

If it seems they are being stubborn, or just trying to rile people up, warn them politely that they look like they are trolling.

If they ease up, thank them, and continue.

If they keep going, ignore or ridicule them, but don't address them on their level. You know, "Please don't feed the trolls."

Cheers!