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To: LeGrande; Fichori; Ethan Clive Osgoode
The Merry Go Round example answers the color coded questions.

Enjoy : )


Ahah! All along you've been saying that you have answered my questions. Now you say that the merry go around example answers them. But the merry go around example doesn't answer my questions! My questions are specific and have answers like "Yes, No," or perhaps some numbers like "180 degrees." So when you say that you answered my questions you really mean just like the merry go around example did -- which is not really! So you haven't answered my questions all this time and you've been saying that you have! But in order for me to know that you really believe your theory, I need you to personally answer my color coded questions specifically.

Look... You've asked me lots of specific questions with numbers or "yes/no" for answer, and I've answered many of them. You well know that science won't get anywhere without answering specific questions.

So when you refuse to actually personally answer my color coded questions, the only conclusion that I can logically come to is that you are outright lying in your claim of 2.1 degrees for an observer on earth at an instant in time, and that you are outright lying in saying that you have answered my questions -- and that you know full well that you're lying.

How can I (or anyone else) logically come to any other conclusion when you refuse to apply your claims to some simple questions?

-Jesse

PS: You still haven't answered my comment about Foucault's pendulum tracking absolute angular rate of zero, or about Michelson detecting the rotational rate of the earth with light. Or for that matter any of the other numerous cases where you've made a scientifically incorrect statement and I've provided evidence to the contrary. Everything together convinces me that you must be knowingly lying. How can I come to any other conclusion? Am I just immeasurably stupid? Sometimes it feels like it. If I was just ignorant, you could just show me the scientific reports which support your claim and then I wouldn't be ignorant about that anymore. But as it is no matter how hard I try, things you say still don't make sense or seem honest.
1,295 posted on 02/10/2009 9:05:24 AM PST by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse
Am I just immeasurably stupid? Sometimes it feels like it. If I was just ignorant, you could just show me the scientific reports which support your claim and then I wouldn't be ignorant about that anymore. But as it is no matter how hard I try, things you say still don't make sense or seem honest.

I don't think you are stupid. You simply don't have a good grasp of basic concepts. You are correct that many basic concepts don't initially make sense. Anyone dropping a bowling ball and a feather can clearly see that the bowling ball drops faster than the feather, and except for exceptional circumstances, that observation is correct. You seem to be stuck at that point.

It is hard to explain why everything falls at the same rate. We know the answer, but if I tell you the answer, you will think that I am lying : ) because the answer won't make intuitive sense to you.

If you really want to understand reality, it requires that you take a viewpoint different from yourself and your preconceptions. Everyone's preconceptions are wrong, it is impossible to completely understand reality, but the journey is fun : )

1,296 posted on 02/10/2009 11:22:54 AM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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