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To: mrjesse
Give me a break. First you say that breeding and mating are the same thing, then you say that "see" and "appear" are the same thing, and now you're saying that "Apparent motion" is the same as "Apparent position?"

No, it is the relationship. Apparent motion to actual motion, Vs. apparent position to actual position.

You agree that apparent motion is not the same as actual motion, correct? Then is apparent position the same as actual position?

1,311 posted on 02/11/2009 12:01:03 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande; Fichori; Ethan Clive Osgoode
Said LeGrande:No, it is the relationship. Apparent motion to actual motion, Vs. apparent position to actual position.

The two statements, "The apparent position and the actual position are not the same", and "The apparent motion and actual motion are not the same" are not synonymous because "position" and "motion" are not synonymous.

You agree that apparent motion is not the same as actual motion, correct? Then is apparent position the same as actual position?

I will agree to no such thing because the apparent motion sometimes is the same as the actual motion, and the apparent position sometimes is the same as the actual position -- so I will not agree to any such absurd statement as yours above.

However it is true that apparent position can be different then actual position, and apparent motion can be different then actual motion, but to say that they are always different is most absurd.

Now, back to my earlier question - why won't you even tell me why you haven't answered my simple color coded questions?

-Jesse
1,314 posted on 02/11/2009 10:02:04 PM PST by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: LeGrande
LeGrande, since I know you so much love talking about planets, I'm posting this picture just for you. I took it myself a few hours ago, by sticking my digital camera onto my "kids toy" class telescope.

This is, of course, Venus.

-Jesse



Camera: Canon 300d digital rebel.
Telescope: Meade DS90, 90mm diameter lens, 1 meter focal length.
The picture could have been better if I had taken the time to prop things up to hold still, and focus, and adjust exposure. But it was late, and Venus was about to set behind a bunch of trees, and my fingers were freezing to death, so this is the best I got this time.
1,315 posted on 02/11/2009 11:51:36 PM PST by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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