The underlying agenda of climate policy - These quotes will AMAZE you

[philman_36]

Shall I keep going?

[philman_36]

Michael Oppenheimer
We must impose a low standard of living on the world.

“[T]he only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don’t suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them.”

Source: “Environmental Quotes,” Freedom Alert, September/October 2001, page 13.
Hardcopy: Printout of 10-22-01 webpage and 12-3-01 webpage that posted the quote.

[philman_36]

Paul Ehrlich
“Giving society cheap, abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”

Source: “Match the Quotes,” Resource Roundup, March 2002, page 8.
Hardcopy: Printout of 6-10-02 webpage with the quote.

I'm pretty sure you get the idea now. Have fun finding the sources on your own, 'cause they are out there. Most folks are just too lazy to add 'em.

[philman_36]

BTW, that particular page is...List of Liberals

[philman_36]

Another non-lazy site...

SAY WHAT?!?!?!? for 2008
(archives, left side, scroll down)

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[Louis Foxwell]

Four words for these “leaders”.

A Leader goes FIRST.

Hypocrites of the highest order.

>>>>>>>>

Absolutely right on. Any environmentalist who does not commit suicide is a liar and a fraud.

[Yardstick]

Shall I keep going?

All you've provided are second-hand sources.

For example, the only sources listed for the Stephen Schneider quote, which is the most damning quote there and the one I would most like to throw in the libs' faces, are a book in which the quote was used (but not where it was originally written), the Limbaugh letter which used the quote, the New American magazine which used the quote, etc. In other words everything but the original source of the quote.

I do see a claim that Schneider made the statement during an interview with Discover magazine -- but which issue? I doesn't say, which seems strange. Or if the statement was only spoken at the interview but never published, what documentation exists of what he said? It isn't provided.

Unfortunately, without solid citations, these quotes are not very useful.

[philman_36]

All you've provided are second-hand sources.
No, I provided a couple of websites that had sources there. I would suggest you take your complaints to them, not me.
...are a book in which the quote was used (but not where it was originally written)...
How about this...You buy the book, turn to page 167 and see if there is a footnote. Get back to me. OK?

Trashing the Planet
Title: Trashing the Planet: How Science Can Help Us Deal with Acid Rain, Depletion of the Ozone, and Nuclear Waste (among Other Things)
Author: Dixie Lee Ray, Louis R. Guzzo
Publisher: HarperCollins
Date Published: April 1992
ISBN: 0060974907
LOCN: TD174.R39 1992
Dewey: 363.73 20
Pages: 206
Footnotes: 210

[Osage Orange]

Dude...!!

Thanks!

[Osage Orange]

Okay...wise ass.

Thanks again.........

[philman_36]

If you want to be really sneaky you can look at the book in a book store before you by it and if it doesn’t have a footnote then you’ll save a few bucks.

[philman_36]

Okay...wise ass
I'm on a roll. What can I say. I've been captioning pictures today and my funny bone is still engaged.

Thanks again.........

One is glad to be of service.

[Osage Orange]

No worries....I’m a wise ass at least once a day.

[Yardstick]

You provided some links to sites with nothing but second-hand sources.

Gee thanks.

[philman_36]

You provided some links to sites with nothing but second-hand sources.
As I stated earlier, take your problems up with them, not me.

Gee thanks.
You're quite welcome.

[Yardstick]

But my problem isn’t with them, it’s with you.

A poster asked if you had sources, and you acted like he was a dolt for not finding them himself. You implied that he was lazy and lacked even “rudimentary internet skills”.

Then, I guess to prove your point, you posted a hundred and one links to sites that you apparently thought had sources. But in fact they have no actual sources, only secondary sources like articles from NewsMax.

And so we’re back to square one. We still have no sources. But now we do have your insults, which to me is kind of uncool. So I’m calling you on it.

[philman_36]

A poster asked if you had sources...
Wrong. Somebody else was asked. My screen name isn't in the "To" box.
...and you acted like he was a dolt for not finding them himself.
Well, if that's what you presume then so be it.

You implied that he was lazy and lacked even “rudimentary internet skills”.
No, I stated that folks who didn't put any sources for their quotes were lazy...
"Have fun finding the sources on your own, 'cause they are out there. Most folks are just too lazy to add 'em."
...and, once again, if that is what you presume then so be it.
But in fact they have no actual sources, only secondary sources like articles from NewsMax.
If the quote is in a news article, and it is an original article, then that is a primary source, not a secondary source, isn't it?

And so we’re back to square one. We still have no sources.
No, we have sources, you just choose to ignore them.
But now we do have your insults...
No, we have what you presume and construe to be insults.

Your turn.

[philman_36]

Oh, why am I bothering?
Primary source
Many sources can be considered either primary and secondary, depending on the context in which they are used.[9] Moreover, the distinction between primary and secondary sources is subjective and contextual,[10] so that precise definitions are difficult to make.[11]

You'll never be satisfied.

[Yardstick]

Well, you’re right. Sorry about that! I mistook your intent.