The red state blue state model doesn’t work. Most blue states are mostly red. Here in Michigan democrats only regularly win 10 or so of our 83 counties.
Wow, this really floors me. Talk of secession?
Then again, I never ever thought we would see the Soviet Union dissolve into a number of independent countries.
Hard to imagine the United States breaking up into different countries. But, there are distinct places in this country. There are key differences socially, culturally, politically, between the more conservative traditional areas of the country and the liberal places.
Stay tuned. We may be living through history.
How would you even get something like that started? The minute you declared, you’d all the governments acronyms at your doorstep, assuming you had enough people interested enough to be considered threatening.
They have no problem being quick and decisive when it comes to things like Waco, Ruby Ridge, or that Mormon compound. How would you get through the first few weeks?
if Texas succeeds, I will definitely move there. I have NO LOVE WHATSOEVER for the government of this country, or the idiots who elected it.
Hell here in IL we wish we could just secede from the money-sucking corruption pit that is Chicago! They can have the collar counties and all their toll roads, we’ll take the cornfields and cows and do just fine.
What’ll they do, trade us movies or derivates for some sacks of flour?
Why rewrite the Constitution? It is a great document.
The problem is we do not follow it. The Courts have been chipping at it all my life. The Legislature thinks they are Kings, and the Senate is terminally arrogant. Now the new inhabitant of the White House, is a arrogant Kenyan Commie.
What a mess.
But do not touch the Constitution. Simply through out the garbage we have representing us and running our government.
I live/work in TX. People are talking a LOT about it in the coffee bars, including some execs.
I think it’s interesting how the media is downplaying and ridiculing Gov Perry’s comments. I even read one Dallas Morning Times article that asserted that the reporter had reviewed some Texas Library Archives asserting that there is no secession provision in Texas constitution. All I can say is that every person who is a product of Texas schools, KNOWS that Texas is the only state to be able to secede from the union. Anyone who has taken a TX History class and actually read the original TX Constitution has learned that.
While I would hope this would not happen, I fear that it is a very real and credible possibility. Water cooler talk is growing in support. I think Obama needs to really pay attention and run our country by appealing to ALL people instead of courting Democrat party favor at the expense of the common citizen (who earns less than $100K and could never afford to contribute to his campaign).
Instead of talking secession, I think it would be more productive to talk about the individual States calling a Constitutional Convention.
“Article Five of the United States Constitution describes the process whereby the Constitution may be altered. Such amendments may be proposed...by a national convention assembled at the request of the legislatures of at least two-thirds of the several states. To become valid, amendments must then be ratified by either the legislatures of or ratifying conventions held in three-fourths of the several states, and may not deny any state its equal right to vote in the Senate without its consent.”
In past, the threat of the States calling a Constitutional Amendment was such that the US Congress had to agree to their demands, but for a single amendment.
But in this case, the Constitutional Convention would essentially be proposed to *disassemble* those parts of the federal government that were created without Constitutional authority—a much harder proposition.
All the interest groups would want to pressure the Convention to enshrine their particular program into the Constitution. Currently illegal things, like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other government bloat. At the same time, there would be as much or more pressure to *remove* parts of the Bill of Rights, especially the 2nd Amendment.
The pressure would be so intense that the Constitutional Convention would almost have to meet in secret. And each and every thing they decided would have to be approved by 3/4ths of the States.
There is no practical way for the Constitutional Convention to be restricted to a limited process. The entire Constitution would therefore be up for grabs.
It is likely that many congressmen and senators would use every bit of power and influence at their command to become delegates to the convention, many of them determined to derail it in any way they could. States vary in how they would select their delegates, either by vote of their Legislature or by popular vote.
The political parties would also pull out all stops to become enshrined in the Constitution as well. Because they are to a great extent responsible for the problems we have today, they are in no hurry to have their power diminished, or the political playing field leveled for other parties.
I think we ought to make a determined effort to get Texas to secede - so we can get these folks out of our hair for once and for all !
We lived in Arlington for nearly 4 years in the 70s. Both my sons were born in Texas. Loved it there. Would go back in a minute — especially if the Big S happens.
After losing his 3rd run for Congress, Tennessean Davey Crockett delivered the shortest concession speech in history: “Ya’ll can go to hell. I’m going to Texas.” We all know what happened at the Alamo.
Something equally momentous happened at the Alamo on April 15th, 2009
While that earlier action was a tragedy, THAT battle set the stage for the success at San Jacinto a bit later and the Republic of Texas was on the way.
Might I suggest that the next rally take place at the San Jacinto Monument — after Texas tells Washington to “go to hell.”
secession is the nonsense the enemies of america are rejoicing about.
The foreign media is already discussing hwo the USA will be a divided up nation in less than 20 years. (ala weather underground)
If anything texas should TAKE OVER the USA.
(just don’t move the capitol to houston)
More recent, but in the same vein.