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Why Is Free Republic Allowing Liberal Trolls To Stay?
May 12 2009 | jveritas

Posted on 05/12/2009 12:07:37 PM PDT by jveritas

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To: wardaddy
....you probably don't even know who the harpies were...

Harpies were. Past tense. I like that. Were, were, were. Not are. Were.

Thank you for the pleasant reminder.

581 posted on 05/13/2009 11:12:32 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
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To: Artemis Webb

If that is how you feel then I suggest you report me to the mods as a troll.
***It wouldn’t do any good because the mods do not proceed from their own posted definition of a troll. Good for you, that you’re able to glean entertainment out of this. But activist conservatives who want to clean up the mess are likely to move on to somewhere else when they see your kind of behavior unchecked.


582 posted on 05/13/2009 11:23:37 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: metmom

Frequently, it’s the use of certain keywords that set off our Spidey Senses. If you use the secret knock, I’ll send you the list of words.


583 posted on 05/13/2009 11:26:23 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
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To: Pan_Yan
Pan I've written then deleted a bunch of different answers to your questions. The simplest most bottom line response is that I believe FR is about more than just “serious conservative political activism”. I think the whole idea of a litmus test is foolhardy. I think you can have a liberal point of view on an issue to two and still very much be a conservative. Even Reagan raised SOME taxes but I don't think anybody here would have called him a RINO (well...not many here).

Some FReepers need to quit taking themselves so seriously. Everybody just needs to lighten up and enjoy FR as it is.

584 posted on 05/13/2009 11:27:37 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Increasingly mulling Newt.)
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To: presently no screen name

Well, it’s not going to happen here.
***I gather that you mean that the other poster isn’t going to start his own troll-boy forum and take his antics elsewhere, preferring instead to ridicule and stain the discourse that takes place on FR. In effect, he turns FR into his own Troll-boy forum.

Someone will start a true conservative site - political activism - and be able to charge. Keeping it ‘clean’ they will get sophisticated serious members
***Maybe, maybe not. I do not know. So far all of the spinoffs from FR haven’t done so well.

- not ones with intentions to disrupt. They are very easy to spot.
***I agree they’re easy to spot, which is why it should be easy for mods to do something about them. But it doesn’t happen.


585 posted on 05/13/2009 11:28:12 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: fr_freak

Well said.


586 posted on 05/13/2009 11:29:32 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Arrowhead1952

“I never argue with a fool, since someone observing the exchanges may not be able to tell who the fool is”.

***Almost tagline worthy.


587 posted on 05/13/2009 11:32:36 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: jveritas
Why Is Free Republic Allowing Liberal Trolls To Stay?

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Because there are too many to deport? /sarc


588 posted on 05/13/2009 11:35:25 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Revolution Beckons......When is enough, ENOUGH?)
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To: jveritas

We need to keep the trolls. They distract us from fighting with each other. :^)


589 posted on 05/13/2009 11:37:27 AM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; pissant

Really for stating the truth? Did you feel that was a suspendable offense?
***No FReepin’ way. I was right alongside Pissant in the trenches fighting for the true conservative candidate. It was the only time I got a timeout in 11 years of Freeping.

As I recall Fred took forever to make a decision even to run. Should I be suspended for also thinking that Thompson just didn’t seem to be campaigning very hard?
***Yes, according to the mods at the time. Especially if you pull data from a new, more accurate source like Intrade to deliver your point.


590 posted on 05/13/2009 11:39:06 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I just gotta ask, what does JimRob think about your proposed
(idealogy litmus matrix)?
***When I suggested the idealogy litmus matrix idea to JimRob he called me a newbie.

To: Kevmo
“Invaded and coopted?”

Well, newbie, we’re mostly all the same old crowd that’s been here all along.

119 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:22:29 PM by Jim Robinson (We ARE the dissent, baby!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130

To: Jim Robinson
Hah hah, that’s great. I signed up 2 months after you and I’m a newbie. Back then no one even said, “Welcome to FR”.

But yeah, I do think that there are tons of RINOs. To be more accurate, the term would be CINOs. I’ve been pushing for an idealogical litmus matrix here on FR, not to get rid of RINOs but to expose them.

THE GOP DOESN’T WANT US- SO WHAT’S NEXT?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=762#762

***It simply takes too long. Look at this thread alone. I see evidence of RINOism in some of the FReepers on this thread. It takes 700 posts to drill down. We need the matrix posted and available so that we don’t have to drill down on every FReeping thread. They’re wasting our time. Deliberately.

Agreed to a large degree. Perhaps a way to rate members by other members???

762 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:43:23 PM by roamer_1

130 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:39:20 PM by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)


591 posted on 05/13/2009 11:43:06 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Pan_Yan

Okay. So you want Free Republic to be an on line conservative war room where tacticians plan strategy and field generals organize the troops. The only problem I see with this is 95% of the Freepers. Just how far are you suggesting expanding the definition of a troll?
***I’m only suggesting that we stick with the current mod-generated definition of troll. They don’t even follow that definition on that thread.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum. (Trolling 101)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165967/posts

Do you ban everyone on the American Idol threads? The Official Friday Silliness Threads? Anyone who posts caption-this-picture threads?
***No.

You could weed out 75% of the posts on this thread as being completely irrelevant. Of course, that also weeds out 75% of the posters.
***You’ve got my position wrong if you think I’m advocating weeding people out. I’m only advocating an idealogy litmus matrix so that a Freeper can look up your profile and see if it’s a waste of time to respond to you or me.

There are several mechanisms used on the religious forum for threads to limit interference. The religionmoderator page has definitions of different thread types they use to weed out the shenanigans. I’m sure the same thing could be applied to Activism so that only the hard core battle ready need apply. But you will also limit your pool of recruits somewhat.
***I have actually promoted such an idea very similar to this but it requires that the mods be in agreement. They are not. The religion mod does an outstanding job and his/her work is exemplary. I took it one step further by opening crevo threads under the religion ecumenical tag and those threads were very cordial in comparison to their open counterparts.

I think there are plenty of opportunities here for organization and planning. But I don’t see how banning people and weeding out the “lazy, apathetic or liberal posters” is going to turn Free Republic into a lean, mean conservative fighting machine.
***I never suggested banning on the basis of idealogy.

I have no idea what the ownership of Free Republic plans for the future of the site, nor will I try to project my thoughts on them or dazzle them with my vision of how they should do their jobs. I enjoy the product as it is, even with it’s faults.
***I suppose I could say I enjoy the product as it is, even with its faults as well. I just have a strong desire for a better product.

As for war, this war has raged in several incarnations since the Federalists and Anti-Federalists were writing letters to the editor. Some people are always in war mode. Some never will be. Feel free to draw your sword, raise your flag and charge the hill. If you are a good enough leader with a good enough plan people will follow you.
***Interesting analogy. Your analogy wobbles because the designated leaders are the ones who are responsible for charging the hill. But the designated leaders in the GOP just want to play it safe in their foxhole.

Artemis Webb and Kevmo, I ping you to this because I think it also relates to your ‘spat.’
***Please re-read my posts with respect to the idealogy litmus matrix. I never propose banning people on the basis of their idealogy. My goal is to remove the facade that CINOs operate from, remove their cover. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.


592 posted on 05/13/2009 11:54:20 AM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Kevmo
***Yes, according to the mods at the time. Especially if you pull data from a new, more accurate source like Intrade to deliver your point.

Thanks for the info. I see now why I have preferred to stick to the non-political threads.

593 posted on 05/13/2009 12:00:40 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: AuntB; jveritas; B4Ranch
That is an incredible thread, nobody that posted and ran that thread should ever call themselves a conservative, and the guy wasn't even an American citizen himself yet he was lecturing all the conservative American freepers about their views on the flood of illegal aliens and our nations immigration failings.

That thread was a vanity of his just like this one, what a POS.

A Challenge for the all "illegal immigration" obsessed freepers by jveritas

594 posted on 05/13/2009 12:04:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Your link doesn’t work.


595 posted on 05/13/2009 12:06:48 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Sorry about that this the the thread , it is the same link as in post 578.

A Challenge for the all “illegal immigration” obsessed freepers by jveritas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1333188/posts?q=1&;page=1#1


596 posted on 05/13/2009 12:12:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Oh, thank you, I found it now.

Axel.

597 posted on 05/13/2009 12:16:24 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: SGCOS
What a waste of bandwidth. You should ask for your post to be deleted.

Nah. This could be a good one!

598 posted on 05/13/2009 12:18:44 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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599 posted on 05/13/2009 12:19:46 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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600 posted on 05/13/2009 12:25:04 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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