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Why the U.S. and the Vatican Must Be Destroyed
JESUS BE WITH US | Published May 21st, 2009 | By Ben Fisher - Jesus Be With Us

Posted on 05/23/2009 7:53:11 AM PDT by Siobhan7

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To: Deo volente

When did the Commies, the MSM or OThuga convince you that

NAVY BLUE

was wierd???

It makes it EASIER for me to read 4’ from my Laz-Y-Boy, as well as easier to find on a fast scroll.

Ah, well, special for you [Can’t have you breaking out in hives and appoplexy over something the least bit DIFFERENT!]:

“One August 1989 morning in Kennebunkport, Maine, Pres Bush (Sr) took his national security adviser, Brent Scowcroft, for a ride on the presidential speed boat, Fidelity. Four hours later, the president came ashore with a ringing slogan that Scowcroft had offered: “The New World Order” Ever since, the goal of a “new world order” has been the theme of Bush’s Foreign policy pronouncements.——LA Times Feb 24, 1991

But this term has actually been used for generations by individuals seeking one-world socialist rule.

1915

Nov 27, Columbia University president Nicholas Murray Butler (on the executive committee of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace) delivered an address, “A New World Order is Being Born” to the Union League of Philadelphia in which he stated: “The old world order changed when this war storm broke—the old world order died with the setting of the day’s sun and a New World Order is being born while I speak.”

1919

A book entitled The New World Order by Samuel Zane Batten is published by the American Baptist Publication Society. In this book, Batten declares: “The old order passes from view, the new world rises upon our vision....We have vindicated the right of social control.....There must be developed a national spirit of service....Society must break the stranglehold of capitalism....The natural resources of the nation must be socialized....The state must socialize every group....Men must learn to have a world patriotism. World patriotism must be a faith....

1920

A book entitled The New World Order (International Organization, International Law, International Cooperation) by Frederick Charles Hicks Doubleday 1920. He is law librarian of Columbia University, and in this book he suggests that among the most powerful few of the Great Powers, the example must be set to “cooperate, here and there, piece by piece, in limiting the exercise of their sovereign rights.”

1927

The Christian Science Monitor (August 8) quoted from an address to the World Federation of Education Associations (WFEA) by Dr. Augustus Thomas (commissioner of education for Maine) at their Toronto congress: “If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment.” He says the world must go through a long process of education

1928

A book entitled The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution by socialist H. G. Wells is published.

He declares that “..The political world of the Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments....The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms, it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York....”

1931

Historian Arnold Toynbee delivers a speech to the Institute for the Study of International Affairs at Copenhagen in which he explains:

“We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands,

because to impugn the sovereignty of the local nation states of the world is still a heresy for which a statesman or publicist can perhaps not quite be burned at the stake but certainly be ostracized or discredited.” —International Affairs (journal of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, i.e. the British version of the Council on Foreign Relations) Nov 1931, “The Trend of International Affairs Wince the War”

1940

A book entitled, The New World Order by H.G. Wells, in which Wells claims:

“It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it.”

1948

July: The CFR’s Foreign Affairs publishes “A New World Takes Shape” by Sir Harold Butler in which he asks: “How far can the life of nations, which for centuries have thought of themselves as distinct and unique, be merged with the life of other nations?

1948 - UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy by Fabian Socialist Sir Julian Huxley is published

in which he proclaims that UNESCO “...In its education program it can stress the ultimate need for world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization...”

1949

Towards World Understanding, vol. V, is published by UNESCO, and in this volume one reads:

“As long as the child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only rather precarious results....

For the moment, it is sufficient to note that it is most frequently in the family that the children are infected with nationalism by hearing what is national extolled and what is foreign disparaged....The activity of the school cannot bring about the desired result unless, repudiating every form of nationalism...”

1951 - July 31: The Chicago Tribune publishes an article, “OWI (office of war information) Propaganda machine Linked to Rhodes (Rhodes scholars) Men,” stating: “Those who absorbed the Elmer Davis(Rhodes scholar and head of OWI), Office of War Information training have pushed the British concept of policing the world with American soldiers and economic aid

and have fought for a world federation under which the United States would surrender its sovereignty.”

1953

The Impact of Science on Society by Fabian Socialist Bertrand Russell is published in which he declares: “ I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology....Various results will soon be arrived at: that the influence of home is obstructive....although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen....Educational propaganda, with government help, could achieve this result in a generation. There are, however, two powerful forces opposed to such a policy: one is religion; the other is nationalism....A scientific world society cannot be stable unless there is a world government.

1958

In Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.’s The Coming of the New Deal he quotes Machiavelli at the front of the book saying, “There is nothing...more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things.” And at the end of the book, he quotes Fabian Socialist H.G. Wells describing FDR as: “The most effective transmitting instrument possible for the coming of the new world order....He is continuously revolutionary in the new way without ever provoking a stark revolutionary crisis.”

1959 - The West in Crisis by James Warburg is published, in which he proclaims that: “...a world order without world law is an anachronism....A world which fails to establish the rule of law over the nation-states cannot long continue to exist. We are living in a perilous period of transition from the era of the fully sovereign nation-state to the era of world government.” James Warburg is a CFR member and founder of United World Federalists. He is also the son of Paul Warburg, an architect of the Federal Reserve.

1960 - The United States in the World Arena by Walt Rostow (CFR) is published. In the book he declares: “It is a legitimate American objective to see removed from all nations—including the United States—the right to use substantial military force to pursue their own interest. Since this residual right is the root of national sovereignty and the basis for the existence of an international arena of power, it is, therefore, an American interest to see an end to nationhood as it had been historically defined.”

1962 - March 10 State Department Study Memorandum No. 7, “A World Effectively Controlled by the United Nations, “ written by CFR member Lincoln Bloomfield, in which he states: “A world effectively controlled by the United Nations is one in which “world government” would come about through the establishment of supranational institutions, characterized by mandatory universal membership and some ability to employ physical force....(But) if the communist dynamic was greatly abated, the West might lose whatever incentive it has for world government” [EDITOR, I THINK] It looks as if now the “communist menace” has been replaced by the “terrorist menace”. And of course they can switch back to the communist menace or any other kind of menace whenever they want to.

1962 - A lecture given by CFR member Nelson Rockefeller at Harvard University in which he says that there is”...a new and free order struggling to be born....(There is a )fever of nationalism....(but) the nation-state is becoming less and less competent to perform its international political tasks....These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a new world order....(with)voluntary service...Sooner perhaps than we may realize,....there will evolve the bases for a federal structure of the free world.”

1967 - March 26: Pope Paul VI writes Populorum Progressio and states: “Who can fail to see the need and importance of thus gradually coming to the establishment of a world authority capable of taking effective action on the juridical and political planes? Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators—all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order.

1968 - The Subtle and Leisurely Penetration, a reference report from the George Mason School of Correspondence, is published by Education Information, Inc., of Sacramento, CA. It mentions that the thirty-two Americans to be Rhodes Scholars this year have been selected, and then states: “The stated objectives of Cecil John Rhodes and his friend, Sir Andrew Carnegie, included the reduction of the United States to a colony of the New World Order.”

1970 - Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski is published. He is a CFR member who will become the first director of the Trilateral Commission and President Carter’s national security advisor. In this book he states: “Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief.....Human beings become increasingly manipulable and malleable...

Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites....whose ties cut across national boundaries....The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty....Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken.”

1972 - Pres Nixon’s speech giving in Peking from UPI 2-25-72.......”and the hope that each of us has to build a new world order.....”

1973 - August 10: The New York Times publishes “From a China Traveller” by David Rockefeller, who writes about Communist China: “One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony....There is a very real and pervasive dedication to chairman Mao and Maoist principles. Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive....The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose....The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in history.”

1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev quoted in Washington Post Feb 25 1990 “...A new world order is taking shape so fast that governments are well as private citizens find it difficult just to absorb the gallop of events.....”

President Bush (SR) quotes on new world order and United nations:

“Time and again in this century, the political map of the world was transformed. And in each instance, a new world order came about through the advent of a new tyrant or the outbreak of a bloody global war, or its end.” Feb 28, 1990-—this quote is six months before Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in August.

“Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective—a new world order—can emerge...... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders.” —Sep 11 1990

1992 - July 20 Time magazine published “The Birth of the Global Nation” by Strobe Talbott (Rhodes scholar roommate of Bill Clinton at Oxford University, CFR director, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace board of directors member, and Trilateralist from a wealthy Ohio investment banking family), in which he writes: All countries are basically social arrangements....No matter how permanent or even sacred they may seem at any one time, in fact they are all artificial and temporary....Perhaps national sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all....But it has taken the events in our own wondrous and terrible century to clinch the case for world government.”

1992 - August 26: The New York Times publishes “The World Needs an Army on Call” by U.S. Senator David Boren (Rhodes Scholar 1963, CFR member, and member of “Skull and Bones”) in which he states: “In the aftermath of World War II, President Truman wanted to empower the United Nations to create a new world order....Richard Gardner proposes that forty to fifty member nations contribute to a rapid-deployment force of one hundred thousand volunteers that could train under common leadership....It is time for us to create such a force....The existence of such a force would go a long way toward making the “new world order” more than just a slogan.”

1993 - April 21: General Colin Powell receives the United Nations Association-USA’s Global Leadership Award, and he remarks: “The United Nations will spearhead our efforts to manage the new conflicts (that afflict our world)....Yes the principles of the United Nations Charter are worth our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.”

1993 - July 18: CFR member and Trilateralist Henry Kissinger writes in The Los Angeles Times concerning NAFTA: “What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system....a first step toward a new world order.”

1994 - the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor March 19**95 quotes Vladimir Zhirinovsky on Nov 9 at a press conference at the U.N. said, “There has long been a hidden agenda to merge America and Russia under the New World Order.”

1995 - July/August: In the CFR’s Foreign Affairs, prominent CFR member Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. exclaims: “We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”

1996 - May 11 Journalist Joan Veon interviews David C. Korten, author of When Corporations Rule the World (19**95) and former Ford Foundation project specialist in Manila. In this interview, Korten claims that: “the World Trade Organization is creating a world government in which one organization which is totally unelected, wholly secretive....with the power to virtually override any local or national laws if those in any way inconvenience global corporations....It was a terrible shock (to those of us who supported Bill Clinton) when Clinton came in and GATT and NAFTA became the centerpieces of his policy....And in a sense, there was almost a seamless transition from President Bush to President Clinton in that regard....Our democracy has been rendered meaningless by big money. The truth is there are politicians (who) are owned lock, stock and barrel by the big money interests....Our elections create, to some extent, a facade of choice.”

1996 - October 23: On “The Charlie Rose Show” on the Public Broadcasting System, Mikhail Gorbachev states: “We are part of the Cosmos. Cosmos is my God. Nature is my God....The future society will be a totally new civilization which will synthesize the experience of Socialism and Capitalism....”

1972 - Oct, page 28 “There should be no surprise for longtime readers of the Bulletin....that those plans include the conversion of the United States into a socialist nation....and the merger of that enslaved segment of mankind with other Communist nations into a New World Order. That goal, under that very name — originally written in bastardized Latin as novus ordo seclorum — has been envisioned by a Master Conspiracy for the past two hundred years as the ultimate product of all its crimes against humanity, and of all its subversive onslaughts against western civilization.”

Are you awake yet?


61 posted on 05/23/2009 9:28:56 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GinaLolaB

As someone said above “Yes indeedy.’ Not sure what and indeedy is but I agree with you.


62 posted on 05/23/2009 9:35:13 AM PDT by Radl (sai)
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To: chicagolady; wolfcreek

Would appear, Dear Hearts,

that the clique of naysaying, possibly idolatrous ideologues don’t find dealing with the truth very attractive . . . and have ran home to mommy.

Interesting.


63 posted on 05/23/2009 9:36:14 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Radl

Have YOU

even READ

Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Micah-Malachi, Mat 24, Revelation?

Do you believe they are TRUE TRUTH, SCRIPTURE, THE WORD OF GOD?

It’s encouraged that authentic Christians

WAKE UP in these END TIMES . . .

Even many RC prophetic types are saying similar things . . .

Wake up and smell the looming fire and brimstone.

SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SHAKEN WILL BE SHAKEN.

That includes 100% of all the human structures—particularly RELIGIOUS structures, organizations, bureaucracies etc.

. . . without exception.


64 posted on 05/23/2009 9:40:27 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: hosepipe
Urban legend perpetuated by Obomiacs and the ignorant.

Exit polls aren't scientific.

65 posted on 05/23/2009 9:41:21 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Quix
Thank you for the timeline and the players.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

66 posted on 05/23/2009 9:42:22 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Quix

That’s your own ill-informed opinion.


67 posted on 05/23/2009 9:45:04 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Quix
More Pope John VI quotes for your reading pleasure:
--If you want peace work for justice.

--Never give advice in a crowd.

--All life demands struggle. Those who have everything given to them become lazy, selfish, and insensitive to the real values of life. The very striving and hard work that we so constantly try to avoid is the major building block in the person we are today.

--Never reach out your hand unless you're willing to extend an arm.

--Physics does not change the nature of the world it studies, and no science of behavior can change the essential nature of man, even though both sciences yield technologies with a vast power to manipulate the subject matters.

--Technological society has succeeded in multiplying the opportunities for pleasure, but it has great difficulty in generating joy.

--Nothing makes one feel so strong as a call for help.


68 posted on 05/23/2009 9:45:57 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Malacoda

America and Samson
Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:09:39 AM · 17 of 21
Siobhan7 to Chewie84

I believe our Lord does not seek America’s destruction, but her conversion. And like the Prodigal Son, if need be, he will bring this country to its knees. There’s a punishment coming to this country, but the end result will be, for the most part, to purify us and bring us back to Him.


69 posted on 05/23/2009 9:48:09 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: XeniaSt

You are quite welcome.

Had you read any such before?


70 posted on 05/23/2009 9:49:13 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Ill-informed?

Really?

How many 10’s of THOUSANDS of pages have YOU read on such topics?

How many library rooms full of such information did YOU have responsibility for managing and presenting to patrons?

I’m waiting for even your assertion BEFORE ALMIGHTY GOD, that

YOUR research on such topics can reach even half way to mine.


71 posted on 05/23/2009 9:51:37 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: NautiNurse

Excellent quotes and truths.

I find his NWO quote quite disturbing.


72 posted on 05/23/2009 9:52:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: NautiNurse

Don’t you find it disturbing?


73 posted on 05/23/2009 9:52:47 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Hey, I’m all about finding out the truth. But I think your approach to it here is superficial at best.

You posted a laundry list of people who refer to the “new world order” without the least conception of what those people actually meant when they said it. How is a socialist’s idea of a “new world order” the same as a Christian’s or a Pontiff’s? A pope’s new order is one without Communism, and a Communist’s new order is one without the pope. And yet to you it’s all one huge conspiracy that—somehow—everybody’s gonna magically fall in line.

I’m glad you studied all this for so long. Now I’m asking you to take the evidence out of your head and put it on the table. What *specifically* makes you so sure that the Vatican will fold like a cheap camera to the civil powers when it has made a veritable pastime of not doing so in...oh....1789, 1848, 1917, 1939, etc. etc.


74 posted on 05/23/2009 9:53:36 AM PDT by Claud
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To: NautiNurse

The OP is far from Anti-RC:

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Catholic Caucus: Daily Mass Readings, 10-01-08, St. Thérèse of the Child Jesus,virgin/doctor-Church
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:21:56 AM · 20 of 56
Siobhan7 to Salvation

As a 3rd Order Lay Carmelite, this is a joyous day. Little Flower, pray for our families and our country.
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Overcoming self will is critical to understanding obedience (communion tongue) [Catholic Caucus]
Monday, September 29, 2008 2:20:56 PM · 21 of 23
Siobhan7 to Biggirl

They should bring back communion on the tongue and Chapel Veils for women. It’s not demeaning, it’s a sign of reverence.


75 posted on 05/23/2009 9:54:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Wherever Catholicism reigns in the West, then so does liberalism, in contrast to Evangelicals, though they also are sliding. Even among church going Catholics. http://www.gallup.com/poll/117154/Catholics-Similar-Mainstream-Abortion-Stem-Cells.aspx http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html#Sec4

I know, i was one and live in one of their strongholds. where Ted K and Kerry are still members, and will receive glorious funerals, sending a message that as long as one dies a Catholic, her lobby power will gain them eternal life. A false gospel to be sure, as is teaching that works help merit one eternal life. Etc.


76 posted on 05/23/2009 9:55:05 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( "O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD." (Jer 22:29))
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To: Quix
Had you read any such before?

Many, but I have never seen as many in one place.

Thanks again.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
77 posted on 05/23/2009 9:55:47 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Quix

YOU DON’T HAVE TO SHOUT. I’M NOT BLIND!


78 posted on 05/23/2009 9:56:25 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: daniel1212

You are spot on.

Many Protty edifi/ structures/ bureaucracies/ whited sepulchers are almost as hideous . . . . a stench in God’s nose.


79 posted on 05/23/2009 9:56:32 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: XeniaSt

You’re welcome.

Thank you.


80 posted on 05/23/2009 9:57:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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