Posted on 05/25/2009 6:10:29 AM PDT by stan_sipple
They might have been illegals and thus should not have been here either, but it does not lessen the cry of justice for that innocent little girl that I fear our system will not heed.
An 1895 supreme court decision ruled that jurors “need not be told of their rights”. That decision has led to the dumbing down of juries and taken control from them.
Those rights include things like the ability to ignore a judge telling them they must rule in accordance with the law. The ability to call and question witnesses. The ability to decide for themselves what is and isn’t admissable in a court of law.
JOHN ADAMS (1771): It’s not only ....(the juror’s) right, but his duty, in that case, to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgement, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.
JOHN JAY (1794): The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy.
ALEXANDER HAMILTON (1804): Jurors should acquit even against the judge’s instruction....”if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong.”
SAMUEL CHASE (1804): The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts.
OLIVER WENDELL HOLMES (1920): The jury has the power to bring a verdict in the teeth of both the law and the facts.
U.S. vs. DOUGHERTY (1972) [D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals]: The jury has....”unreviewable and irreversible power...to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge.”
“Would you kindly bring me up to date on informing juries of their rights. I’m out of the loop on this.”
Google “FIJA”. That’s the Fully Informed Jury Association.
Having dealt with Mexican Police, both Municiple and Federalies (Judical Police) I'll take a stab at answering your question.
If the father or one of the uncles (maternal or paternal) were to stab this POS within a few hours of the discovery, then "Nobody saw Nothing".
Unless the family (of the victim) had money, even a couple of hundred USD), for you see the law has been broke and a price must be paid.
If the family of the Avenger were to have serious money - i.e. a bunch of relatives working in the USA, then the moditha extracted would be greater.
If the POS's family had serious money, then it gets interesting. Everyone would go to jail in the (child's) victims family. Someone would be expected to 'man up' and do a few years in a prison - and everyone would take pride in making the life of the prisoner more comfortable (i.e. bribes to guards - family - contact visits) But the family would gain great status in their community - i.e. don't screw with them - they have killers at their disposal. Very macho thinking ya, but it's Mexico.
All comes down to how much money can be had by judicial authorities....
Remember, the Mexicans wanted 'Dog" Chapman - the bounty hunter to do serious time as he had embarrassed the corrupt system. (And Dubya was willing to throw him to the wolfs)
Waterboard him to death.
As I have been saying for YEARS the real threat to Americans is not Al Queda but the crime wave that is and will be coming from our southern border. Just wait for the kidnapping for ransom/sex slave industry ramps up. If only our media, including talk radio, spent 25% as much time on this topic as they do on the “war on terror” Americans would demand a 20’ tall 2,000 mile fence on our border.
Well, before the advent of giving drivers’ licenses to illegal immigrants, determining your ‘legal’ status was as quick as seeing if you had a license, which everyone who’s driving needs to have.
So, the only real way to fix that would just be to stop issuing illegals drivers licenses. Cop pulls you over at night, you’ve got a license, it goes like usual. Cops pull you over at night and you don’t have a license, then they can start worrying about your legal status. Anything else gets tricky - not everyone’s going to have a passport or something on them, and if it’s 3 AM, how the heck are they going to be able to ‘determine your legal status’ easily?
Agree. A bullet in the head would be nice, after 48 hours of torture involving the severing of genitals.
Thank you for the information about juries.
Can a juror request that the jury they are serving on be informed of these rights?
I believe they can but its really more of a ticket off of jury duty.
We had a great thread about jury nullification over here a week or so back.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2253274/posts
Well, whatever works! ;)
I agree with you.
Why is it DNA evidence is only acceptable for freeing people on death row? (and can do so in a matter of weeks),
But for exectuing someone, they sit for YEARS on “death row”.
ridiculous. there should be 2 appeals or 2 years,whichever comes 1st.
Got a FIJA link on my FR profile page.
Kill this sick demented animal who did this.
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