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But liberal men are like homosexuals

Well this one certainly wasnt a homo. On the exterior he was all male, liked to shoot, hunt, fish, etc., he was convinced it was those evil Republicans who wanted to take them away. I could not make him understand that it was the Democrats who actually wanted to take his guns away from him.

Socially he felt the government did not do enough for him or his unmarried daughter of 2 (5 if you count her boyfriends kids), all welfare babies and always had their hands out for more, but never wanted to work for anything. He was impressed that his daughter had it in her to fight with welfare for everything she was due.

That was one of my biggest gripes, and they both knew it.

I believe that there are liberal/leftists and then not-so-smart people who simply don't understand that liberal/leftists aren't really there to help them, and will in fact hurt them if given the chance. But afterwards, they'll fluff it up to make it look good and declare what they've done a "success". I think that IF we could simply reveal the vileness of liberalism to men like the one you dated, that they would turn and change...possibly. I shouldn't have made it so black/white. Nothing is ever as simple as I try to make it.

Given what you've just told me, I have a story that you will probably relate to.

I was with a good friend of mine several months ago and me and my two sons and him were all cutting firewood on another man's farm. The farmer drove up and we stopped work to talk for just a bit. We were talking about current events and the economy in particular. He told us that he had a cow that was wild as a march hare, and jokingly, my friend (who was standing next to my wife's truck) reached through the open window and brought out an M-4 clone (AR-15) and pointed it in the direction of the cow and asked him which one it was and that he would take care of that problem! The farmer looked at him and said slightly confused... "What is that? A paintball gun?" My buddy replied, "Nope! It's a "PAINBALL" gun!" ..and we all laughed. But the farmer didn't. Then he said, "What in the world do you need a gun like that for?!" When he said that, everybody got quiet and exchanged nervous glances. We didn't know we were in the midst of a possible liberal. Within a few minutes of the conversation about the financial problems of this nation, this same farmer declared that none of this should be a problem because we had all that gold down at Ft. Knox to back up the money! Once again, we exchanged nervous glances. My friend explained to him that this wasn't the way it worked anymore and that the gold standard had not been in effect for quite some time. The look on the farmer's face was difficult to interpret. It was one of confusion and disbelief. I'm not entirely certain if he believed us.

Anyway...this farmer hunts, shoots, has a fish pond, and raises cattle. But he was about as different from us as anybody could be. However, I wouldn't say he was a through and through liberal, because he was simply ignorant of certain facts and not trying to aggressively and righteously push his brand of politics down our throats and declaring us evil because we had an EBR with us.

I think the guy you dated, as well as this farmer are best described as "unaware". The trick is to get them to BE aware! ...and if I get that one figured out, I'll let you know first! :-)